[Info-vax] DCL, was: Re: Microkernel

[Johnny Billquist]

On 2012-08-14 13:46, Winston19842005 wrote:
> On 8/14/12 5:32 AM, in article k0d5ug$dpv$1 at Iltempo.Update.UU.SE, "Johnny
> Billquist" <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>
>> On 2012-08-14 10:43, Paul Sture wrote:
>>> On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 08:34:24 -0700, FrankS wrote:
>>>
>>>> So I'm still unconvinced that the existing OpenVMS facilities need to be
>>>> augmented by a permanent command buffer, and all the associated
>>>> headaches related to consolidating those buffers across multiple
>>>> terminal sessions.
>>>
>>> At one time I would have agreed with you, but the more I am exposed to
>>> other systems, the more useful I see such features.  Command line
>>> completion is another feature I miss when I go back to VMS - it really is
>>> useful.
>>
>> Yes, I really wish TOPS-20 would come back, from which much of this
>> really stems... :-)
>>
>> As for saving and retrieving the command history between sessions - it's
>> pretty much only useful if you also have a usable way of quickly search
>> and recall commands from the history. As DCL lacks that, I don't see
>> persistent, large command history as a useful addition to DCL. Now,
>> better command searching and recalling would be a very nice thing to have.
>>
>> Completion of filenames and commands would also be very nice. Did
>> DCLCOMPLETE ever get ported beyond VAX?
>>
>> Johnny
>>
> I don't understand why this cannot be done on the client side?
> Back when I was logging in via a terminal server to our Alpha/Vax systems
> (1999 or so), I used a terminal emulator that had a mode where you could
> completely type your command line, edit it if need be, and then send it to
> the remote system.

How would that deal with when you do not want echo of what you are 
typing? Or when you actually are running in a mode where each keystroke 
are acted upon, such as when you are running EDT?

	Johnny