[Info-vax] HP wins Oracle Itanium case

[Paul Sture]

On Tue, 21 Aug 2012 14:44:18 +0000, ChrisQ wrote:

> On 08/21/12 14:01, Bob Koehler wrote:
> 
>>     If so, then why didn't it get a decent debugger until the IDEs came
>>     out, why is it still so hard to get file protections set right, and
>>     how come I have to roll my own RMS every time?
>>
>>
> Most of the code developed here is cross compiled for elsewhere, so
> never need debug facilities native and in any case debuggers tend to be
> overrated and often only needed to bandaid sloppy development
> procedures.

When I was working with COBOL or FORTRAN on VMS, I only resorted to the 
debugger very rarely - I could usually debug stuff by looking at the 
source code.  In fact the last times I recall using the VMS debugger with 
either of those languages were when I suspected a compiler bug or a third 
party library routine.
 
> As for RMS, a file system is to store bytes and any imposed structure on
> the data should be layered on elsewhere. So yes, you will have to write
> it yourself :-)...

RMS was one of VMS's great productivity strengths in early days.  My 
friends working with lesser operating systems were writing their own 
indexing systems for each and every app they wrote.

-- 
Paul Sture