[Info-vax] Trial Phase 2 (was Re: HP wins Oracle Itanium case)

[David Froble]

ChrisQ wrote:
> On 08/24/12 18:25, David Froble wrote:
> 
>>
>> Yeah, and we've had similar in the past. Coal barrons, Railroad
>> magnates, and such, making hugh profits while standing on the necks of
>> the people doing the work. Workers try to unionize to get some better
>> treatment, no problem, hire thugs with ax handles to break some heads.
>>
>> No thanks ...
> 
> Sorry, David, can't let that go. Do we protesteth too much perchance ?.

Possibly, but it's actions like those of Larry that totally screw up 
things for most people.

Now, it appears that he's using his company's products to unfairly 
(yeah, depends on who's defining it, I know) attempt to hurt HP's business.

Perhaps you might remember the asshole who wrote Diskeeper ?  Turns out 
he was a religious nut case, and when he found out that a drug company 
that manufactured a drug that he didn't agree with was a Diskeeper 
customer, he tried yanking their license, even though they had already 
paid for the product.

In my opinion, and maybe I'm unique, a business should follow some moral 
values.  For Larry, just run your own business, don't try to ruin others.

The story went around in the past about the small company that thought 
they had a deal with Microsoft.  When it went sour, and they asked "what 
went wrong?", alledgly someone from Microsoft replied "your problem is 
that you trusted us".

Pulls out well used soapbox ...

Capitalism only works when all parts strive toward a common goal.  It 
fails as soon as any part of the whole gets greedy and tries to screw 
over other parts.  Possibly why principals of socialism seem to appeal 
to so many people.

Kicks soapbox back into corner ...

> I can see why some people in this group might be seriously anti and perhaps
> with good reason, but let's not have double standards please. For 
> example, Apple
> have restrictive trade practices and get their kit manufactured in (on 
> the necks
> of the workers) cheap labour plants, while google have serious privacy 
> and other
> issues with the way they collect and use data. Then we have Intel and 
> all the
> horror stories about people who work in their plants. Are all richer 
> than Oracle,
> or am I mistaken there ?.

Apple isn't the only game in town, and for a while things seemed pretty 
bleak for them.  They turned it around with hard work, good ideas, and 
such.  This is good.  But can you tell me one thing Apple sells that 
cannot be had elsewhere?  Apple provides the better mouse trap, they 
don't try to slow down their competitors, they run faster and get ahead 
of them.

As for cheap labor in some parts of the world, let's not open that can 
of worms.

> Seems to me that all big business is suspect, but that's the way it 
> seems to work
> and there's probably little that can be done about it, other than mass 
> boycott of
> the product, which is unlikely.

Maybe it should not be so "unlikely".

> They obviously build a quality product that many want to buy, 
> irrespective of the
> fact that it's expensive. Hp have even taken legal action to maintain 
> access to it,
> so what's wrong with that ?. Sounds like the normal successfull us 
> business model
> to me.
> 
> Ok, am playing devil's advocate a bit here :-)...

Do you doubt that Larry's only objective is to hurt HP ???