[Info-vax] VMS License Generator

[Arne Vajhøj]

On 1/29/2012 11:44 PM, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:55:33 -0500, Arne Vajhøj<arne at vajhoej.dk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 1/29/2012 6:02 PM, Subcommandante XDelta wrote:
> :
>>> Alas this is where that analogy falters, if a corporate purchases an
>>> asset, they can damn well do what they please with it, regardless if
>>> it the greatest commercially derived operating system on the planet.
>>
>> Yes. That is the law.
>
> That which is law is not necessarily, wise, just, responsible,
> proportionate or even sensible, SOPA/PIPA, NDAA 2012, the Patriot Act,
> there are myriad iniquitous examples.

SOPA/PIPA did not become law.

But law is still law whether you agree with it or not.

> This splinter cell of the VLF (the VMS Liberation Front) is not
> composed of script-kiddies on a lair, on a lark, for a laugh, wearing
> baseball caps backwards, baggy jeans around their ankles, listening to
> Britney Spears, or however young folk comport and compose these days.
>
> This splinter cell of the VLF is composed of ancient, justified, and
> righteously pissed off, 401k'ed, old digits, akin to Peter Finch's
> character Howard Beale in the film Network (1976) - we're as mad as
> hell and we're not going to take it any more. We don't give a damn,
> but we do give a damn about the future of VMS.

I think you will find it very unpleasant to get busted by
BSA or whoever.

> Bury me in an 11/780 cabinet, with the IDSM on my heart, an RK05 disk
> pack for my pillow, when that time comes to cold cycle.

:-)

>>> If you use the licences so generated to keep your non-commercial
>>> hobbyist VMS systems operating, there is a theoretical and
>>> questionable "criminality" admittedly, but you are not defrauding or
>>> depriving HP of any revenue streams.
>>
>> There must have been thousands of music/film file sharers that
>> have argued that they would not have bought the product so the
>> company did not lose any revenue. And they all lost (if that was
>> their best argument).
>
> Arne, I think you are gilding the lilly just a tad, has the VMS
> Hobbyist program led to a serious forfeiting of revenue streams to HP?
> -  I think not, it's helped preserve some VMS mind-share, with mininal
> opportunity cost to HP.
>
> How much would it cost an individual with no corporate, government,
> academic or other institutional affiliations (hence perks) to
> establish and maintain on a continuing basis, just base VMS licencing,
> let alone any layered products?
>
> Facts and figures welcome.
>
> I am not asserting that any such facts and figures wil be outrageously
> greedy, merely that it will probably be out of the ambit of most
> individuals.

Nothing using hobbyist.

But not being able to afford XYZ does not give one the right to
XYZ without paying.

Arne