[Info-vax] Latest TCPIP Services seem irreparably horked...

[VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG]

In article <4f551edd$0$2229$c3e8da3$76a7c58f at news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
>VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>
>> It's not IGNORING the RFC822 header.  It's not removing the MAIL-11
>> header.
>
>
>There is no such thing a a Mail 11 header. There are fields in the mail
>database which include sender, recipients and subject.  For short
>messages, the message content could also be stored in MAIL.MAI, but
>generally, for internet messages, they are stored as separate files.
>
>In your case, you should investigate whether the mail messages received
>from the internet and processed by something else than SMTP Services
>receiver and symbiont are:
>
>1- stored as external files or stored inside the MAIL.MAI file
>2- have proper record structure for the POP server to process
>3- Have properly formatted RFC822 headers at the very top of the message
>contents.
>
>
>
>
>The pop server will synthethize an RFC822 header from the data in the
>MAIL.MAI database if it has decided that the contents of the message do
>not begin with a valid RFC822 header.
>
>So the first step is to ensure that your message contents really do
>begin with properly formatted RFC822 header text followed by a blank line.
>
>And that means looking at the raw message files for record attributes as
>well as loong at the contents with an editor or even dump to ensure they
>are correct.
>
>
>
>If the SMTP service is defined but not started, it is quite possible
>that when the POP server uses the internal TCPIP$mumble system services
>to obtain config info, that it is given empty response or default values
>instead of given the data from the services database.


This is what's showing up as the header in the mail client when the POP
server was horked:
  ====
Date: 02/24/2012 12:34:09 AM
From: Hein Van Den Heuvel <Hein at attunity.com>
Subject: RE: odd logger entry, BI without UP
X-vms-from: SMTP%"Hein at attunity.com"  "Hein Van Den Heuvel"
X-evolution-source: pop://squyrm@127.0.0.1/
Message-id: <1330084011.29295.4.camel at Satellite>
Mime-version: 1.0

and this was in the body of the message:

Return-Path: <Hein at attunity.com>
Received: from sendmail.attunity.com (194.90.22.63) by ALPHA.TMESIS.COM (MX
          V5.4 AnHn) with ESMTP for <VAXman at TMESIS.COM>;
          Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:34:08 -0500
Received: from ILEXCH10.attunity.local ([fe80::8031:e23c:2681:e8cf]) by
          ilexch10.attunity.local ([fe80::8031:e23c:2681:e8cf%10]) with mapi id
          14.01.0289.001; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:34:04 +0200
From: Hein Van Den Heuvel <Hein at attunity.com>
To: "VAXman at TMESIS.COM" <VAXman at TMESIS.COM>
CC: Richard Thomas <Richard.Thomas at attunity.com>
Subject: RE: odd logger entry, BI without UP
Thread-Topic: odd logger entry, BI without UP
Thread-Index: AczyQKep6/+Wa1OrTUash/AcX/62iQAc9Amw
Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 05:34:03 +0000
Message-ID: <093D9D6CBFED4D488D9F359B830764FC9E938D at ilexch10.attunity.local>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
x-originating-ip: [194.90.25.130]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0

Brian,
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Now, same email with the functioning POP server (after I fired up crippled
SMTP process):
  ====
Return-path: <Hein at attunity.com>
Received: from sendmail.attunity.com (194.90.22.63) by ALPHA.TMESIS.COM (MX V5.4 AnHn) with ESMTP for <VAXman at TMESIS.COM>; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 00:34:08 -0500
Received: from ILEXCH10.attunity.local ([fe80::8031:e23c:2681:e8cf]) by ilexch10.attunity.local ([fe80::8031:e23c:2681:e8cf%10]) with mapi id 14.01.0289.001; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 07:34:04 +0200
From: Hein Van Den Heuvel <Hein at attunity.com>
To: VAXman at TMESIS.COM <VAXman at TMESIS.COM>
Cc: Richard Thomas <Richard.Thomas at attunity.com>
Subject: RE: odd logger entry, BI without UP
Thread-topic: odd logger entry, BI without UP
Thread-index: AczyQKep6/+Wa1OrTUash/AcX/62iQAc9Amw
Date: 02/24/2012 12:34:03 AM
Message-id: <093D9D6CBFED4D488D9F359B830764FC9E938D at ilexch10.attunity.local>
Accept-language: en-US
Content-language: en-US
X-ms-has-attach: 
X-ms-tnef-correlator: 
X-Originating-Ip: [194.90.25.130]
Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable
Mime-version: 1.0
X-evolution-source: pop://squyrm@192.168.2.2/
  ====

Whatever you want to call that shit at the top of the first example is
what if fucking it up.  

AND... once POP is started AFTER SMTP, I can kill of SMTP and it still
functions!!!  WTF!
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