[Info-vax] Latest TCPIP Services seem irreparably horked...

[VAXman- at SendSpamHere.ORG]

In article <4f558ff2$0$8576$c3e8da3$cc4fe22d at news.astraweb.com>, JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
>VAXman- @SendSpamHere.ORG wrote:
>
>> Now, same email with the functioning POP server (after I fired up crippled
>> SMTP process):
>
>> AND... once POP is started AFTER SMTP, I can kill of SMTP and it still
>> functions!!!  WTF!
>
>
>My suspicion was correct.  When starting, the POP server asks TCPIP
>service for the SMTP configuration data. If the SMTP service is
>disabled, it doesn't get it (or gets a default).
>
>Once pop has gotten the config info, it doesn't matter if the SMTp
>service is shut down since POP already has the stuff it wanted.
>
>
>The POP server doesn't need to look at the SMTP service config.  POP is
>about accessing your VMSmail mailbox. It isn't about using the SMTP
>protocol to receive and send emails from/to the internet.
>
>My guess is that the newbies were given a training exercise on how to
>use the private TCPIP$ routines and given a homework to show they can
>use those routines, so the guy in charge of POP decided to read the SMTP
>config, not realising the difference between SMTP and POP.
>
>You could define the SMTP service to be a dummy one which listen to some
>random port and calls NLA0: instead of a command procedure when there is
>an inbound call for it, and define the SMTP queue to have some standard
>printer symbiont with output to NLA0:

It's fine with MX% started first.  It listens on port 25 making it im-
possible for the TCPIP Services SMTP server to startup completely.  It
appears, now, to startup enough to satisfy the Ignore-Mail11-Headers:
TRUE configuration which you contend is non-existent.


>This woudl allow you to start SMTP in a way that the routine would feed
>the POP server its config, but the SMTP software woudln't actually
>process any internet emails.
>
>Am glad I moved my emails to postfix on OS-X.

Well, the config is in the TCPIP$SERVICE.DAT file in SYS$SYSTEM, AFAICT.
POP can read that.  It shouldn't have to read it from some active memory
copy thereof made by nature of starting the SMTP server.

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