[Info-vax] The Future of Server Hardware?

Jan-Erik Soderholm jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Mon Oct 1 05:06:46 EDT 2012


JF Mezei wrote 2012-10-01 10:31:
> On 12-10-01 03:19, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
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>> http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2011/10/27/facebook-goes-global-with-data-center-in-sweden/
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> Yep:
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> Facebook to use outside air to cool the tens of thousands of servers
> that will occupy the new campus
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> Woopty doo, so their cooling costs will be lower. But they still have
> tens of thousands of servers, a number large enough they still need to
> locate near a very large power generation facility.
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> All these "green" data centre stories focus on reducing the cooling
> costs. They never discuss the actual server power costs and of course
> never compare having tens of thousands of servers versus having X
> mainframes with comparable compute/IO power.
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And never discuss the real value of saying "I hate my boss",
"Just had breakfast" or "Am I drunk or am I drunk..." to
the world. FB is the old "Hello World", I guess. :-)

Now, if that datacenter in Sweden actualy did produce something
of a sustainable value, *that* would have been something...

A FB datacenter can never be "green". It's a waste of resources
no matter what they run on.

Jan-Erik.


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> Perhaps the millenium generation has never heard of mainframe computers
> that can run linux and really think the only way to scale things is to
> just had thousnads more PCs in your data centre.
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> You'll note that established mature companies who are not flush with
> cash like the millenium companies such as Google, Facebook, Apple,
> Twitter etc) do not run out and build data centres with 10,000 PCs.
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> If there were a truly objective "green" study comparing power costs to
> run mainframes against equivaent number of 1U servers (equicalent in
> computer/IO power), what would it show ?
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