[Info-vax] Completely OT: Frank Lloyd Wright

Bill Gunshannon billg999 at cs.uofs.edu
Sun Oct 21 14:56:47 EDT 2012


In article <yPadnZDLguVvrRnNnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d at giganews.com>,
	"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> writes:
> On 10/21/2012 9:04 AM, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <feb0ce6e-90a1-4699-9854-1b0e0aaba1d9 at d3g2000vbj.googlegroups.com>,
>> 	AEF <spamsink2001 at yahoo.com> writes:
>>> On Oct 6, 11:42 pm, "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilber... at comcast.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>> On 10/6/2012 6:58 PM, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yesterday there was a news item on Dutch TV news (all day long!) that a
>>>>> project developer in Phoenix wants to demolish a house designed and
>>>>> build by Frank Lloyd Wright. He built this house in 1952 for his son
>>>>> David. As you will know (I hope) Frank Lloyd Wright was one of the
>>>>> gratest architects that ever lived, not only in the U.S., but anywhere.
>>>>> I'm a very big fan of his work, and it is incomprehensible to me that it
>>>>> would be allowed to demolish any building designed by him, let alone
>>>>> this house that is regarded to be one of his ten best designs. In Europe
>>>>> this would be a listed building and you couldn't even point your finger
>>>>> at it without permission. Will you please help to stop this act of
>>>>> cultural barbarism and sign the petition on this website?
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.change.org/petitions/city-of-phoenix-save-the-david-and-gl...
>>>>
>>>> If you really want to preserve this house, buy it and the land it stands on!
>>>>
>>>> If you look deeply enough, you just might find that there are good
>>>> reasons for wanting to demolish the house!
>>> Question:
>>> How do you feel when neighbors gang up on you to clean up your yard by
>>> getting the local gov't to give you a ultimatum?
>>
>> Gang up on you?  Seems to me that you are in violation of some ordinance.
>> Otherwise, they would have no way of giving you an ultimatum.  If you
>> chose to live there, then you agreed to abide by the ordinances.  Thus the
>> reason my house in GA is in an un-incorporated area.
>>
>>>                                                    I lived in a house
>>> with others. One of them had some ugly car parts or something like
>>> that on the driveway. We got a nasty note threatening a summons or the
>>> like if they weren't put out of sight.
>>
>> Most municipalities I know of have ordinances against derelict cars (or parts)
>> sitting in driveways.  heck, I have heard of places where you are allowed
>> to work on your car in your own garage or even leave your garage door opened.
>> But some people agree to live under these conditions.
>>
>>>                                          Where I live now, my neighbors
>>> were given a stern warning to water their lawns.
>>
>> By who?  Homeowners association?  Is it a development with restrictions that
>> you agreed to abide by when you moved in?  Strictly a contract matter.
>>
>>>                                                    I was just wondering
>>> what you and Bill Gunshannon thought things like this.
>>
>> If you agree to certain conditions for living in a location (and failure
>> to learn about them prior to buying a house does not excuse you) then
>> you are bound to abide by them.  I am a ham radio operator.  You can bet
>> I made sure there were no restrictions on antennas or towers before I
>> bought that house in GA.
>>
>>> Also, how do you (and Bill) feel about eminent domain?
>>
>> Theft is theft.  Doesn't matter who does it.
>>
>>> Just curious.
>>
>> Did I answer your question?  :-)
>>
>> bill
>>
> 
> ISTR that courts have ruled that the Federal Government (FCC) has 
> jurisdiction over radio and television antennas.  

In most cases, they do.  But covenants are contract matters and while
you can not have a covenant that weakens a law, you can require stricter
limits.  I know of places that not only don't allow visible antennas
but also ban invisible ones.

>                                                    The community in which 
> I live doesn't have visible roof top antennas.  My (unused)
> television antenna is in the attic over the garage and so, is invisible.
> 
> We have broadband cable which I use only for internet access.

bill

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