[Info-vax] Completely OT: Frank Lloyd Wright

[Dirk Munk]

Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article <k6dr9i$47k$1 at news.albasani.net>,
> 	Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> writes:
>> Bill Gunshannon wrote 2012-10-26 12:40:
>>> In article <733ad$5089cd9c$5ed43c14$22872 at cache60.multikabel.net>,
>>> 	Dirk Munk <munk at home.nl> writes:
>>>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>>> In article <Wregn2WJMXKz at eisner.encompasserve.org>,
>>>>> 	koehler at eisner.nospam.encompasserve.org (Bob Koehler) writes:
>>>>>> In article <nospam-09AF6C.16461925102012 at news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture <nospam at sture.ch> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is it because you remember clearing all that snow that you don't like a
>>>>>>> long drive then?  Or the lack of privacy?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       "privacy" is a great thing to have when you're breaking into somone
>>>>>>       else's property.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Not on mine, thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       It's not that I don't like a long drive, but I consider it a cost
>>>>>>       to be offset if I'm bidding on the house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In my early teens we moved into a house with large picture windows and
>>>>>>> had to get used to folks staring in.  We got good at out-staring them
>>>>>>> but it wasn't until the hedge matured that we could get any privacy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       Why didn't you close the drapes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>       To reduce crime, folks need to be able to see the house, not see
>>>>>>       into the house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Everybody can see everybody else's house here in the city where I currently
>>>>> live.  Hasn't prevented breakins.  In fact, they are on the rise.  Biggest
>>>>> difference in that respect between my current two houses is I can't use a
>>>>> gun here.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's good. Just think of the guy who shot his 15yr old son a couple of
>>>> weeks ago, because he thought the boy was a burglar. Life must be hell
>>>> for him now, waking up every morning in the knowledge that he killed his
>>>> own son.
>>>
>>> Except for the fact that he was a burglar.
>>>
>>>
>>> bill
>>
>>
>> So what? Not particual easy to regret a fired bullet.
>> I guess he'd preferd that he had taken his car, or something...
>
> ???  He wasn't after a car.  He was attempting to break into a neighbor's
> house.  A neightbor who happened to be a relative.  He was armed and there
> is no reason to believe (based on what we read in the daily newspapers)
> that he would have hesitated to use his gun.  And the neighbor (his aunt)
> was home at the time and is the one who called the father to come to her
> aid.
>
> Criminals are criminals.  If the police were willing to pull the trigger
> more often there would be a lot less of them. And individual citizens
> would find it much less necessary to do the job themselves.
>
> Maybe what the father really needs to be asking himself is why his kid
> was an armed robber in the first place.
>
> bill
>
Perhaps because people like you and his father think it is normal to own 
a gun. Then the idea that you can use it to protect yourself when you 
are burgling is the next logical step. He is protecting himself just as 
you are protecting yourself. Why do you expect more common sense from 
him than you are displaying yourself?