[Info-vax] Completely OT: Frank Lloyd Wright
AEF
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Sat Oct 27 12:28:30 EDT 2012
On Oct 24, 9:06 pm, David Froble <da... at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> glen herrmannsfeldt wrote:
> > David Froble <da... at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
> >> Bob Koehler wrote:
> >>> In article <k69064$3r... at dont-email.me>, David Froble <da... at tsoft-inc.com> writes:
> >>>> Dirk Munk wrote:
> >>>>> I explained to Bill that owning a building does not mean that you have
> >>>>> absolute control over it.
>
> >>>> And Bill, and I, do not agree with that claim.
>
> > I am pretty sure that anywhere in the US, and likely most other
> > countries, you can't start building nuclear weapons on your
> > property. So, there is at least one thing you don't control.
>
> I doubt that is a property issue :-)
>
> >>> But the law does agree with that claim.
>
> >> But usually only in special circumstances, and I think most will agree
> >> that there can be special circumstances. Even then, fair compensation
> >> should apply.
>
> > Two examples that I know about. In one, a hospital wanted to expand,
> > and the easiest place was into a condominium development. They got
> > together with the homeowners association and agreed to buy all the
> > units for something like twice, maybe more, market value. There are
> > enough comparable properties that it isn't hard to figure out what
> > market value is. It would have been much more complicated to buy
> > each one separately, and very inconvenient to have bought all but
> > one.
>
> I had some private corespondence about this and one issue was about the
> person that learns a road is going through and demands 10 x the property
> value. I think my response to that was one solution:
>
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> > The point about the one landowner who finds out about a road being built
> > and decides that his lot is worth 10+ times what it was a month before he
> > found out is a real problem, though.
>
> Did I ever tell you that I'm a problem solver?
>
> Plan the road, and set up purchase agreements, but don't purchase
> anything until all agreements are in place. If someone wants too much,
> then cancel the road, but report all demands to the county assessment
> board. Let the property owner(s) pay taxes on what they think their
> land is worth.
>
> :-)
>
> Build the road a year or 2 down the road.
>
> :-)
>
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> > In another case, a shopping complex was being built, and so bought
> > out the houses in the block, except for one. The last owner, an old
> > lady with no heirs to inherit, wouldn't sell, even for $1 million.
> > She knew she wouldn't live much longer, and didn't care about
> > the money. They built the center around the house.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Macefield
>
> > In the end, she willed the house to the developer.
>
> > -- glen
This reminds me of how Disney acquired land in FL for Disneyworld.
They steathily bought the land need for the future park in pieces
before anyone knew their motive. They were able to purchase the land
for far less than if the landowners knew the true purpose. See
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disneyworld#History.
AEF
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