[Info-vax] open source OpenVMS (Re: Oracle-RDB seminar notes)

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Phillip Helbig---undress to reply wrote 2013-04-01 21:05:
> In article <5159a03c$0$26875$e4fe514c at dreader37.news.xs4all.nl>, MG
> <marcogbNO at SPAMxs4all.nl> writes:
>
>> On 1-apr-2013 9:37, Phillip Helbig---undress to reply wrote:
>>> Well, my boss features in an article somewhere on the HP website, so
>>> it's no secret.  We moved to Itanium years ago.  Demands (i.e.
>>> customer wants fast results) continue to increase, and Itanium gives
>>> more power with lower costs (power, maintenance, maybe licenses
>>> though I suspect the last is a small cost compared to support costs)
>>> with a more-or-less compile-and-go port (i.e. still use VMS).
>>
>> Any hands-on experience with VMS I64?  Because you, for some reason,
>> never gave me that impression.  (At least, most of your posts here
>> seem to be about the Alphas in your personal collection.)
>
> That's because here in comp.os.vms I am wearing my hobbyist hat.  For
> problems at work there is a support contract.  :-)

I'd say that that is true for most professional VMS users, at least
from Sweden. I never see or read something *here* from any of the
large VMS sites that visits the Swedish HP or HP-Connect activites.

C.o.v is more of a hobbyist place today and has less and less
relevance for the professional side of VMS. Which, of course, is
perfectly clear for HP also, which also shows when talking to
someone from VMS engineering. I think they said something about
"monitoring" c.o.v, but that is that.


> At work, I have
> never actually seen the Itanium systems we use; hardware isn't part of
> my job.  Neither are upgrades, patches etc.  I do mostly application
> support (mostly stuff with Rdb).
>

Interesting to compare Rdb with VMS. The Oracle Rdb tech updates
at the Oracle office in Stockholm has close to the same number
of people as the VMS upd days. But the Rdb (JCC) mail-list has
a much higher share of professional members including many if
the Rdb engineers from Oracle.

But then, the Rdb mail-list has close to nothing of the O.T and
otherwise unrelated material that is the majority of c.o.v
today.

Jan-Erik.