[Info-vax] open source OpenVMS (Re: Oracle-RDB seminar notes)

[MG]

On 1-apr-2013 21:51, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> I'd say that that is true for most professional VMS users, at
> least from Sweden. I never see or read something *here* from
> any of the large VMS sites that visits the Swedish HP or HP-
> Connect activites.

That's probably because not everyone is as passionate about his
(or her) job.  By the sound of it, they certainly won't mind to
have to switch over to Linux if their manager(s) told them to.

The people that visit the Dutch SIG/UG and TUD events I also
don't see much on here, only at ITRC and the horrid "Enterprise
Business Community" /thing/ that took its place.  Although, I
wouldn't know as I haven't been there much and tried to avoid
it, with good reason.  Again, likely for the same reason as I
wrote about in the previous paragraph.


> C.o.v is more of a hobbyist place today and has less and less
> relevance for the professional side of VMS.

That's what you usually get when a platform is run into the
ground, or not?

Despite that 'observation' --- which I can't verify, as I don't
know what percentage here is actually employed with VMS --- I
somewhat fail to see the point(?) you're trying to make though.


> Which, of course, is perfectly clear for HP also, which also
> shows when talking to someone from VMS engineering. I think
> they said something about "monitoring" c.o.v, but that is that.

I doubt it.  Wouldn't that be a bit painful and confrontational?
I /think/ they may prefer the usual, safe, /behind-kissing/ that
they tend to get at the events (e.g. TUD), instead of some of the
criticism that can be read about here (which is mostly directed at
their employer, mind you).


> Interesting to compare Rdb with VMS. The Oracle Rdb tech updates
> at the Oracle office in Stockholm has close to the same number
> of people as the VMS upd days. But the Rdb (JCC) mail-list has
> a much higher share of professional members including many if
> the Rdb engineers from Oracle.

I doubt many non-commercial VMS users would 'need' or, let alone,
/prefer/ to run Rdb or any RDBMS in general for their enjoyment
at home.

I personally certainly don't see much of a point, except perhaps
(the less impressive, but adequate) MySQL or SQLite (that I've
been working on for VMS), like in combination with a HTTP server.

  - MG