[Info-vax] open source OpenVMS (Re: Oracle-RDB seminar notes)

Paul Sture nospam at sture.ch
Tue Apr 2 07:29:31 EDT 2013


In article <kje1g8$8oo$1 at news.albasani.net>,
 Jan-Erik Soderholm <jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com> wrote:

> David Froble wrote 2013-04-02 05:10:
> > Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> >> MG wrote 2013-04-02 00:21:
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> I doubt many non-commercial VMS users would 'need' or, let alone,
> >>> /prefer/ to run Rdb or any RDBMS in general for their enjoyment
> >>> at home.
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> Note that you are free to use Rdb as a hobbyist also. There is
> >> absolutely no need (as a hobbyist) to use some crappy MySQL
> >> or similar.
> >>
> >> And a realy don't see the use of a server without a RDBMS :-)
> >>
> >
> > Must have your eyes covered.  Our software has it's vertical market
> > cornered, and not a single RDBMS on any of the customer systems ...
> 
> OK. :-)
> 
> The use of a *hobbyist* server... :-)
> 
> But yes, it was a little streched. My point was that since
> Oracle allowes you to have Rdb on a hobbyist/test system,
> there is no specific reason not to.

Unfortunately there *is* a specific reason not to.  This is the link 
given under "I accept" on the Rdb download page:

http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/licenses/standard-license-152015.html

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You can only develop and demonstrate applications, not actually use them.

IANAL but there's a world of difference between that and the various 
non-commercial use only programmes out there such as the VMS Hobbyist 
one.

-- 
Paul Sture



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