[Info-vax] PostgreSQL (Re: open source OpenVMS (Re: Oracle-RDB seminar notes))

BillPedersen pedersen at ccsscorp.com
Thu Apr 4 22:32:05 EDT 2013


On Thursday, April 4, 2013 10:00:07 PM UTC-4, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article <kjl6uv$b72$1 at dont-email.me>,
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> 	Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> writes:
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> > On 2013-04-05 00:24:27 +0000, Bill Gunshannon said:
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> > 
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> >> In article <5cce1080-517e-40bc-bf57-7daad6f91956 at googlegroups.com>,
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> >> 	BillPedersen <pedersen at ccsscorp.com> writes:
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> >>> Actually, we do not care what language you use or even if you use a 
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> >>> language.  If you have a favorite open source application written in 
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> >>> any language we would be happy to help you and have your involvement.
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> >>> We can also use people interested in helping spread the word, run 
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> >>> tests, manage the VMS-Ports site.  Write wiki articles.  Many, many 
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> >>> tasks besides programming and porting.
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> >>> Yes, some of the major support efforts are in C and the CRTL is a major 
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> >>> focus of issues.  Much of the open source software is written in C.  
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> >>> But there are also open source applications written in Fortran, COBOL, 
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> >>> Pascal and other languages. But knowledge of C is not required.
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> >>> As far as transfer vectors they are alive and well and important to 
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> >>> allow upgrades of sharable libraries to be done without impacting the 
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> >>> executables calling them.  Recent work done as a part of some porting 
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> >>> work has made the transfer vector mechanism nearly identical across all 
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> >>> three architectures of OpenVMS.
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> >>> Bill.
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> >> 
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> >> I would like to see the ones written in COBOL.  Got any pointers?  :-)
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> > 
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> > The transfer vectors (VAX) or symbol vectors (Alpha, Itanium) do not 
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> > vary by language.   VAX uses a block of assembler, while Alpha and 
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> > Itanium use linker directives.  (Sure, it would have been nice to add 
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> > compatible linker directive to VAX, but the goal back then was to get 
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> > to Alpha and to enhance and update Alpha. What VAX had with its 
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> > transfer vectors worked, and was already in wide use.)
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> > 
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> > Various tools to build the vectors from common sources are available.  
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> > I've linked to one earlier in this thread, and I suspect gnv has its 
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> > own implementation.
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> > As for a COBOL shareable image example, there's one available in the 
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> > fine manual:
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> > http://h30266.www3.hp.com/odl/vax/progtool/cobol57a/6297/6297_profile_005.html
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> I wasn't talking about any vectors.  Bill said "But there are also open
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> source applications written in Fortran, COBOL".  I would like to see
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> some of these "open source applications" that are written in COBOL.
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> 
> bill
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> -- 
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> Bill Gunshannon          |  de-moc-ra-cy (di mok' ra see) n.  Three wolves
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I never said there were a lot of open source COBOL programs but here are a couple...

http://sourceforge.net/projects/apac-accounting/?source=directory

http://sourceforge.net/projects/acas/?source=directory




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