[Info-vax] [OT] Wirth style languages, was: Re: Obscure Ada compiler vendors?

[Paul Sture]

In article <kjjpgn$6ff$1 at dont-email.me>,
 Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> wrote:

> On 2013-04-03, Paul Sture <nospam at sture.ch> wrote:
> > In article <kjhvbo$k9k$1 at dont-email.me>,
> >  Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote:
> >
> >> On 2013-04-03 17:24:19 +0000, Simon Clubley said:
> >> 
> >> > Are any of the Wirth style languages considered trendy these days ?
> >> > 
> >> > We have already talked about Ada's current position.
> >> 
> >> Programming language (alleged) popularity: 
> >> <http://www.tiobe.com/index.php/content/paperinfo/tpci/index.html>
> >> 
> >
> 
> "Alleged" is the correct word here. :-)
> 
> If they are using search engines to gather the information, then this
> index is only a measure of how often the language is mentioned online.
> It says nothing about how often the language is actually used in a real
> world application or as a teaching language.

In that case one could interpret the list as a ranking of how often 
folks seek answers by posting questions online.  Popular languages which 
are some combination of difficult or unpredictable and have lousy 
documentation would float to the top :-)

> > I used Delphi/Object Pascal in the late nineties but have heard little 
> > of it since. One very nice feature which I thought could be useful for 
> > software houses was the way forms could be inherited so you could tailor 
> > the look and feel of apps for a specific customer, recompile and go.
> >
> > At number 15 it still manages to pip Visual Basic .NET at 16, which I 
> > must admit is a surprise.
> >
> > Objective C was another surprise there at number 3.  While the 
> > popularity of iThingies is obviously a factor I wonder to what extent 
> > the App Store sales model has encouraged development for OS X itself.
> >
> 
> It's used in a Apple product. Perhaps people talk about the language
> far more than actually using it. :-)

:-)

> > Anyone like to guess where Java will be in a year's time, given the 
> > negative publicity it has had recently?
> >
> 
> If Java does decline, I wonder what language will replace it ?

I gather that the LibreOffice folks are gradually rewriting the Java 
elements of that product in Python.

The Java vulnerabilities of late have been to do with the Java browser 
plugin rather than its server side.

Has anyone else here been monitoring Java server vulnerabilities?

-- 
Paul Sture