[Info-vax] Are queue manager updates written to disk immediately ?

Johnny Billquist bqt at softjar.se
Fri Apr 19 12:13:20 EDT 2013


On 2013-04-19 17:01, AEF wrote:
> On Apr 19, 10:40 am, Johnny Billquist <b... at softjar.se> wrote:
>> On 2013-04-19 16:35, AEF wrote:
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>>> On Apr 18, 11:37 am, Paul Sture <nos... at sture.ch> wrote:
>>>> In article <kkoss5$ij... at Iltempo.Update.UU.SE>,
>>>>    Johnny Billquist <b... at softjar.se> wrote:
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>>>>> Simon can correct me if I understood things wrong, but this is my
>>>>> understanding:
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>>>>> Job X ran.
>>>>> Job X submitted job Y for running tomorrow.
>>>>> System crash
>>>>> Job X ran again.
>>>>> Job X submitted job Z for running tomorrow.
>>>>> Job X finished
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>>>>> Job Y disappeared. Job Z exists as expected. Job X got two log files
>>>>> from the two runs. Job X would appear to have completed both times.
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>>>>> My guess is that job X was rerun because it didn't finish, but that is
>>>>> perhaps not a good enough explanation for the rerun.
>>>>> There is no obvious explanation at all for job Y not being around.
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>>>>> The "best" explanation might just be that the quemanager work file was
>>>>> not updated at all, so job X would appear to not have run at all. Thus
>>>>> the run after the reboot again, and also the loss of job Y.
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>>>> As I understand it, the queue manager file wasn't even updated to
>>>> reflect that job X had started, let alone finished.  According to the
>>>> document I quoted up thread, running jobs should be aborted when the
>>>> machine comes back
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>>>> --
>>>> Paul Sture
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>>> Thanks!
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>>> Just one more:
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>>> X - entry number not in accounting
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>> Entry number for X have not been given in any of the posts, as far as I
>> know. But I'm sure it could be provided, if we really think we need it.
>> (Can't say I think it makes any difference if I manage to put an
>> explicit value to X.) But I fail to see any connection to any
>> accounting. These are queue job numbers.
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>>> Y - entry number 3927
>>> Z - entry number 3923
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>>> Is this right? If so -- fascinating.
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>> Yes...
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>>          Johnny
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> Entry numbers are recorded in ACCOUNTING records.

My mistake. I was thinking of accounts.

> Also, regards job X, was _that_ recorded in ACCOUNTNG.DAT?

Now, that is another good question.

	Johnny




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