[Info-vax] Desperately Seeking OpenVMS ecosystem

[Subcommandante XDelta]

"Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)":
> Le 30/11/2013 03:36, JF Mezei a écrit :
>> Correct. The only action that COV can take is to tell emplooyees to
>> contact their CEO, even if they must go over 10 layers of managemebht's
>> heads and tell them that HP is pulling the plug on VMS and describe the
>> impact and costs to the company to migrate, and tell the CEO to contact
>> Meg Whitman if he isn't happy with HP and tell her he will stop buying
>> from HP.
>>
>> That is the only way to change things, and it is already too late to do.
> It is one of many other ideas in this thread. Impossible to answer on
> all these ideas.
> 
> I'm gratefully about the simple fact discussion seems to be opened.

:

> An ecosystem can survive if a number of factors can be coordinated :
> knowledged of the technical story, heart of engeneering, hobbyist,
> customers, universities interest,... In this ecosystem the suppliers are
> one of the pieces. And this part is itself complex : internal interests,
> principal stake-holders, wall street observers, personal stories of
> managers...

:

> The major thing for us is doing some proof that the VMS ecosystem can
> bring up some other circuits.

Damn straight.

> What said xdelta subcommandante is VERY IMPORTANT : we have to go out
> privacy, become in some ways public, coordinate customers beside HP
> centrality...

Well, let's be clear about this, I merely chimed in to say the VLF were
thinking along the same lines as you.

One must avoid any "Not Invented Here" (VLF is snake-oil) messenger
shooting. ;-)

In anycase what the VLF say, from our perspective is the "no shit
Sherlock" bleeding bloody (albeit, possibly, blinding) obvious about the
totality of the VMS situation, nothing unique in our perspective, no
invention, creativity, nor perspicaity.

As always, shoot not the messenger, but only shoot the message, should
it have a deficit of inherent merit.

Yes, the circuit break has to happen. Hopefully the Swedes will come to
that conclusion, lock shields, and go viking on Wall Street. They will
be permanently struck off the HP Christmas card list, however, that is
of trivial concern, compared to repair and regeneration of the VMS
ECOsystem.

> And, no, cov is not childist, it is just a little tired, but very bunch
> of sympathetics old guys :
> (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=548057545279838&set=a.548057541946505.1073741826.511962028889390&type=1&theater)

Ha!

Gerard, I think your sobriquet will have to be "Getafix", you've come to
stir the pot of VMS activism, which has gone off the boil. :-)

https://www.google.com.au/search?tbm=isch&q=getafix+druid

Who the Romans are, neither requires explication, nor embroiderment.

> Like for HP, I don't think cov is the center of the VMS ecosystem, I
> would say it is betweeen historical register and think tank. Not at all,
> for the moment, a place from which actions could be initiated, and, yes,
> I don't know if it could be and how could be some other places created.
>
> As I said, what we initiate in France is a milestone, what has be done
> in Sweeden is a milestone. We have to go on.

Damn straight.

More later.