[Info-vax] Current VMS Usage Survey

["Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)"]

Le 04/12/2013 19:30, Bill Gunshannon a écrit :
> In article <529f684b$0$2042$426a74cc at news.free.fr>,
> 	"Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)"   <gerard.calliet at pia-sofer.fr> writes:
>> Le 04/12/2013 17:17, Bill Gunshannon a écrit :
>>> It is certainly not that "we must not do anything" as much as you can
>>> do nothing.  You don't own it.  You don't control it.  If HP is not
>>> willing to keep it going, it will die.
>
> And people wonder why no one takes c.o.v denizens seriously....
>
>> Ok. I heard about USA as a free country, and liberal economics as
>> freedom bases.
>>
>
> Certainly.  But, apparently you have a totally different understanding of
> what that means than the rest of the world.
>
>> So.
>>
>> About 4000 customers around te world saying "our supplier is a dumb".
>
> 4000 customers in an industry with probably more than 400,000,000
> customers?  Insignificant.  It is even insignificant if you only
> looked at the US.
>
>> Two or three free analysts saying "this decision is a bug".
>
> Not sure what a "free analyst" is but unless your paying him to say
> it none is likely to write anything good about VMS.  Analysts don't
> follow the rants of people out of touch with reality, they follow
> real trends in business.
>
>>                                                               About 100000
>> users saying we think about our security.
>
> As has been pointed out, VMS didn't have the security market cornered.
> And 100000 users is still insignificant in a business with  several
> hundred million users.
>
>>                                            About 1 article in the "wall
>> street journal" saying "hum, HP stake-holders have buyed the wrong
>> action, buy Oracle actions".
>
> Why on earth would they say that?
>
>>                               One big thinker saying "cloud" is a risk,
>> and is not the same thing as mission critical... One political analyst
>> saying "Obama choosed the wring IT manager" (oups ! I don't know
>> anything about US politicals, forget it !)....
>
> Apparently don't know a lot about a lot of things.  But, lets continue...
>
>>
>> In a free country, with free customers and free market, it is not
>> possible to act against twenty dumb managers ?
>
> Sure it is.  Start your own company and compete against them.  But
> you don't own VMS and have no say in what its owners want to do with
> it.  That's one of the tihings that "free" means.  HP is "free" to
> do whatever it wants with its property regardless of what you think.
>
>>                                                 The very name of HP DG is
>> not Meg Withman, but Joseph Staline ?
>
> Huh?  Seems you are the one with Stalinist leanings.  You want to force
> someone to meet your desires regarding the disposition of their property.
>
>>                                        Tell me about that, because I have
>> to choose my next hollydays, and I thought USA was a good choice, and
>> for now, I'm in uncertainity.
>
> So, let me get this straight, if Space Mountain is being run by a VAX
> with VMS you won't be coming to Disneyland.
>
> bill
>
Sorry Doctor Bill G. I didn't see you're a professor. A professor has to 
give lessons.
lesson 1 : for what reason, we, doctors of VMS were not able to keep it 
alive
lesson 2 : for what reason, it is forbiden to DO something for VMS
lesson 3 : I don't care of users, companies, etc,... I'm just a doctor

oups ! I'm just an ignorant, and perhaps two or three years less than 
you her Doctor. I apologize daring speaking about life.