[Info-vax] Current VMS Usage Survey

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <52a0240a$0$1333$c3e8da3$50776f34 at news.astraweb.com>,
	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
> On 13-12-04 18:55, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> 
>> Oh puleezze.  The writing has been on the wal for ages.  Go back and
>> read some of your own posts.
> 
> Yep. But  HP was still saying VMS was still being developped and that
> IA64 had a long bright future ahead. So media couldn't really quote the
> "writing on the wall" which HO continued to deny until this year.

So HP was lying.  Nothing new there.  Actions speak louder than words and
HP's actions clearly demonstrated the lack of future for VMS.

> 
> And here is the problem: with huge walls painted with that writing, how
> come the large corporate clients of VMS didn't go to Carly/Hurd/Whitman
> to convince them that VMS was unique and had to be preserved ? 

Maybe they did.  But, maybe also HP had decided from the beginning that
VMS was not strategic,

>                                                                 NSK
> customers did manage to convince HP of this.

Because, when you come right down to it, VMS customers did not place the
same value in VMS that NSK users placed on NSK.   Or, HP saw NSK as
strategic from the start which they didn't with VMS.

> 
> It is quite possible that those large key VMS customers had very little
> resistance to moving to a different platform and hence very little
> lobbying happened to save VMS.

I'll accept that.

> 
>> I missed that.  I didn't see them hide anything.
> 
> HP refused to say how many indians were being hired to replace VMS
> engineering. 

Hiding would have meant not even telling people it moved.  Moving it
and not saying if the replacement was equivalent is not hiding but 
putting more writting on the wall for everyone to see.

>              And during the web conference, a slide was provided to show
> some of the key employees in India. HP corporate required that slide be
> taken down because it was never meant to be public.
 
And?  See above. Hiding would have been never saying anything in order
to make people believe things were going on as usual.  Painting a bleak
picture and then not assuaging people's fears is blatant and definitely
not hidden.

bill

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