[Info-vax] Current VMS Usage Survey

Bill Gunshannon bill at server3.cs.scranton.edu
Fri Dec 6 08:20:44 EST 2013


In article <l7rhf6$d2i$1 at solani.org>,
	Michael Kraemer <M.Kraemer at gsi.de> writes:
> JF Mezei schrieb:
> 
>> But in reality, they ditched VMS engineering and replaced it with a team
>> barely capable of doing maintenance, let alone real development. So this
>> is a material change which HP sought to hide from VMS customers o that
>> customers would delay the official recognition that VMS was dead.
> 
> I don't see this as an indication that VMS was dead,
> just a cost cutting measure in the first place.
> (of course it was an indication that VMS wasn't doing well,
> but it's up to the customers to buy more VMS gear to
> improve the situation)
> 
> Quite a few IT companies moved their teams to india,
> I bet HP-UX is there as well, and a couple of years ago
> rumour had it that AIX is already there.
> (there were some really newbie questions from indians
> in the related NGs)
> But maybe IBM have a better QA for their products?
> 
>> BTW, remember all those claims that DEC, then Compaq and then HP would
>> honour development of VMS until well beyopnd 2020 in order to meet
>> military requirements for those big sales they made ? Wonder where those
>> contracts went.
> 
> Maybe BG (no, not Bill Gates :-) could jump in here once again
> and point out that these long term contracts never existed?

Two points:
 1: I never said they never existed.  I even pointed out some still
    existing use of VMS (VAX/VMS) at places like Moffett Field and
    Hurlburt Field.  And, it is well known that J-Stars was (maybe
    still is) VMS but the governments contract was not with HP and I
    doubt they ever saw any money from this contract after the initial
    purchase of equipment as it was maintained by the contractor.
 2: There is no such thing as a "long term contract" in the government.
    All contracts run from 1 October to 30 September.  They may have
    options to renew, but can be terminated with the swipe of a pen.
    Money can not be committed beyond the end of any given FY.  Failure
    to include any particular contract in the new budget effectively
    terminates it.

bill 

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