[Info-vax] Desperately Seeking OpenVMS ecosystem

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

David Froble wrote 2013-12-07 06:07:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <2e2dnZ5RgYRurDzPnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d at giganews.com>,
>>     "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> writes:
>>> On 11/24/2013 3:57 AM, "Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)" wrote:
>>>> Le 23/11/2013 12:49, Jan-Erik Soderholm a écrit :
>>>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote 2013-11-23 03:01:
>>>>>> On 11/18/2013 3:42 AM, "Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)" wrote:
>>>>>>> Le 18/11/2013 08:09, Michael Kraemer a écrit :
>>>>>>>> Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer) schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Have a look on our site (www.hp-interex.fr), download a .ppt (Vms
>>>>>>>>> friends, season 1). Have a look on the two first slides.
>>>>>>>> And what shall we do with a ppt on VMS?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In these ppt, there are arguments and analysis, notably an analysis
>>>>>>> about how VMS community can be manipulated by HP.
>>>>>>> But what is to be done are actions, for sure. We initiated in france
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> survey you can read on our site. As a milestone. Perhaps the first
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> is to know who we are as VMS users, how many, which needs...
>>>>>>> In france, like in another countries, I think, we have very few means,
>>>>>>> and an initiative like ours must be relayed to succeed.
>>>>>>> VMS friends need friends.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I give up!  What is "ppt"?
>>>>>>
>>> If you are crippled and unable to type the full text, e.g. "Power Point"
>>> you may have some excuse for for abbreviating "Power Point".
>>>
>>> My English Composition Instructor would have insisted that the full name
>>> be used.
>>
>> omg!!  lol...
>>
>> English ain't what it used to be.
>>
>>>>> What a childish behavior...
>>> I'd call it "Lazy".
>>
>> Or just using common behaviour.  When was the last time you wrote out
>> "American Standard Code for Information Interchange".  Or are you "lazy"
>> and just type ASCII.
>>
>>>>> Entering "ppt" in Google gave these two pages as
>>>>> the *first two* hits:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPT
>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_PowerPoint
>>>>>
>>>>> But then, if one can post silly posts about simple
>>>>> spelling errors, I guess one also feels free to spam
>>>>> c.o.v with this kind of idiotic posts...
>>>>>
>>>>> Grow up.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Don't worry about it Jan-Erik : perhaps Mr Richard B. Gilbert give up
>>>> about VMS, and his message is just despair.
>>>>
>>>> And, like me, he doesn't unserstdand how just three letters P P T can
>>>> transform a bunch of professionals in a sort of delirious court.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps VMS is already in hell, and all we can do is, like Dante (oups,
>>>> some european culture,I apologize) claming some poems as we go down
>>>> throught circles of hell.
>>>>
>>>> More seriously, I repeat : who is going in Barcelona at HP Discover, 6th
>>>> december ? Can we meet there ? And do something ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> bill
>>
>
> I call bullshit!
>
> Vehicle Management System
>
> Nothing sucks like a VAX
>
> CYA, now, is it "Cover Your Ass", or is it "See Ya"
>
> The list could go on and on, but I think I got the point across.
>
> Just because you know some people who will recognize an abreviation in the
> context you intended, doesn't mean the whole world will do so.

When the context at hand is "electronic presentations", *no* IT
professional today would missunderstand what PPT stands for!

I do *not* think that Mr Gilbert actualy did/do not know what
"ppt" stands for. It was just a failed atempt to try to point
fingers against something not viewable directly on VMS, just
as if that whould have made any difference...

 > ...doesn't mean the whole world will do so.

And did Gérard wrote to "the whole world"? No, he wrote to the
usualy highly professional IT group of comp.os.vms.

In some other context, a full writeout of "PowerPoint" might
have been in place. In yet some other context even only calling
it "a presentation" could have been right. But not on c.o.v.

Jan-Erik.