[Info-vax] Desperately Seeking OpenVMS ecosystem

[David Froble]

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> David Froble wrote 2013-12-07 06:07:
>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>> In article <2e2dnZ5RgYRurDzPnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d at giganews.com>,
>>>     "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88 at comcast.net> writes:
>>>> On 11/24/2013 3:57 AM, "Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)" wrote:
>>>>> Le 23/11/2013 12:49, Jan-Erik Soderholm a écrit :
>>>>>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote 2013-11-23 03:01:
>>>>>>> On 11/18/2013 3:42 AM, "Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)" wrote:
>>>>>>>> Le 18/11/2013 08:09, Michael Kraemer a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer) schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Have a look on our site (www.hp-interex.fr), download a .ppt (Vms
>>>>>>>>>> friends, season 1). Have a look on the two first slides.
>>>>>>>>> And what shall we do with a ppt on VMS?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In these ppt, there are arguments and analysis, notably an analysis
>>>>>>>> about how VMS community can be manipulated by HP.
>>>>>>>> But what is to be done are actions, for sure. We initiated in 
>>>>>>>> france
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> survey you can read on our site. As a milestone. Perhaps the first
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> is to know who we are as VMS users, how many, which needs...
>>>>>>>> In france, like in another countries, I think, we have very few 
>>>>>>>> means,
>>>>>>>> and an initiative like ours must be relayed to succeed.
>>>>>>>> VMS friends need friends.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I give up!  What is "ppt"?
>>>>>>>
>>>> If you are crippled and unable to type the full text, e.g. "Power 
>>>> Point"
>>>> you may have some excuse for for abbreviating "Power Point".
>>>>
>>>> My English Composition Instructor would have insisted that the full 
>>>> name
>>>> be used.
>>>
>>> omg!!  lol...
>>>
>>> English ain't what it used to be.
>>>
>>>>>> What a childish behavior...
>>>> I'd call it "Lazy".
>>>
>>> Or just using common behaviour.  When was the last time you wrote out
>>> "American Standard Code for Information Interchange".  Or are you "lazy"
>>> and just type ASCII.
>>>
>>>>>> Entering "ppt" in Google gave these two pages as
>>>>>> the *first two* hits:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PPT
>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_PowerPoint
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But then, if one can post silly posts about simple
>>>>>> spelling errors, I guess one also feels free to spam
>>>>>> c.o.v with this kind of idiotic posts...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Grow up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Don't worry about it Jan-Erik : perhaps Mr Richard B. Gilbert give up
>>>>> about VMS, and his message is just despair.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, like me, he doesn't unserstdand how just three letters P P T can
>>>>> transform a bunch of professionals in a sort of delirious court.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps VMS is already in hell, and all we can do is, like Dante 
>>>>> (oups,
>>>>> some european culture,I apologize) claming some poems as we go down
>>>>> throught circles of hell.
>>>>>
>>>>> More seriously, I repeat : who is going in Barcelona at HP 
>>>>> Discover, 6th
>>>>> december ? Can we meet there ? And do something ?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>> bill
>>>
>>
>> I call bullshit!
>>
>> Vehicle Management System
>>
>> Nothing sucks like a VAX
>>
>> CYA, now, is it "Cover Your Ass", or is it "See Ya"
>>
>> The list could go on and on, but I think I got the point across.
>>
>> Just because you know some people who will recognize an abreviation in 
>> the
>> context you intended, doesn't mean the whole world will do so.
> 
> When the context at hand is "electronic presentations", *no* IT
> professional today would missunderstand what PPT stands for!
> 
> I do *not* think that Mr Gilbert actualy did/do not know what
> "ppt" stands for. It was just a failed atempt to try to point
> fingers against something not viewable directly on VMS, just
> as if that whould have made any difference...
> 
>  > ...doesn't mean the whole world will do so.
> 
> And did Gérard wrote to "the whole world"? No, he wrote to the
> usualy highly professional IT group of comp.os.vms.
> 
> In some other context, a full writeout of "PowerPoint" might
> have been in place. In yet some other context even only calling
> it "a presentation" could have been right. But not on c.o.v.
> 
> Jan-Erik.
> 

Me?  A "professional" ?????

Surely not ...

:-)

Actually, I did have to think about it a bit.  Make of that what you 
will.  Yes, I did figure it out, but it was disruptive of reading the post.