[Info-vax] newVMS, was: Re: [OT] Abbreviations, was: Re: Desperately Seeking OpenVMS ecosystem

["Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)"]

Le 08/12/2013 22:49, johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk a écrit :
> Folk in that position probably won't be posting their thoughts here, but some
> of them*may*  want to be able to share their thoughts with others in similar
> positions, or with others who have some knowledge of the factors involved -
> whether or not VMS plays much of a part in the chosen way forward.
>
> AMD64 is probably a safeish bet, though I'm wondering if prices of enterprise
> boxes will rise as ARM-based clients start to reduce the legacy-x86 economies
> of scale. IA64 prices ? Who knows. Software costs? Support costs? Does anyone ever talk about "TCO" these days?
Very good points, very, very good points.

Examples, I got in our survey :
France, Steel Industry, turnover 9,4 billions €, 38 000 users : "we want 
to go on on VMS and itanium for 20 years"

USA, Business Intelligence, deals with 50% of fortune 100 : "HP has 
removed trhe concept of CRITICAL from their thinking" ; "OpenVMS takes 
1/5th the manpower to manage of the next best OS" ; "HP has achieved in 
the OS world what Obama just did with a web site "Much Ado about a Royal 
Mess" and a massive IT failure."

Germany, car manufacturing : "HP appears to be abandoning our key 
OpenVMS technology. HP is abandoning our business."

It is also real word. And as you said it is very difficult to say what 
could be a "proven solution" now for a number of customers, and they 
NEED some way of sharing thoughts, away from any rehashed analysis.

And YES, what about TCO ?

We are not sparrows in the wind, with two-months-futures, no ?