[Info-vax] Bradley Manning and OpenVMS

David Froble davef at tsoft-inc.com
Tue Dec 10 03:26:28 EST 2013


Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> In article <l81phj$5bp$2 at dont-email.me>,
> 	Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>> On 2013-12-08, DTL <didier.morandi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Let's assume the system on which these diplomatic telegrams were stored was an OpenVMS system.
>>>
>>> How could the (Wiki)leak be detected?
>>>
>>> A Security ACL on the folder(s) access READ
>>> A Security ACL on his CD-ROM Drive access WRITE
>>> An alarm from both, gathered via a SIEM solution, giving the following alert:
>>>
>>> "A guy is burning a CD on his computer with a lot of sensitive data"
>>>
>> Without mandatory access controls, he could have just used his administrator
>> privileges to turn them off before copying the files.
>>
>> The irony is that he managed to do this in the organisation which gave
>> us SELinux. What was that again about the cobbler's children ? :-)
>>
> 
> Read almost any security white-paper today.  Insider threats are much
> greater than outsider threats.  And much harder to deal with.  Not only
> do I have ultimate control over all the systems I administer but my user
> base doesn't understand my reluctance to use that absolute power.  When
> I have brought up issues like possiblity of copyrighted materials or
> hacking tools in students directories I have often been asked why I don't
> just go through all their files looking for them!!
> 
> bill
> 

And there is the best chuckle of the day, and on that note, I'm off to bed.

But, I know the answer to your question.  Your name isn't Ned Sam Albert.



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