[Info-vax] Message from HP.

["Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)"]

Le 11/12/2013 12:15, johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk a écrit :
> On Wednesday, 11 December 2013 09:49:21 UTC, JF Mezei  wrote:
>> On 13-12-10 21:10, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
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>>> Name one proprietary, commercial OS that has been released to the
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>>> world in source?  No. CP/M doesn't meet that definition.
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>> Palm OS (or whatever it was called), released to public domain after HP
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>> abandonned plans to go mobile.
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>> Also, Apple makes the "Darwin" Unix open source, it is a glorified
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>> FreeBSD with lots of Apple add-ons (but without the apple gui).
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> And in the land of high availability systems, but as an addon rather than a
> complete OS, there was also Tandem/Locus's (and thus later Compaq's) NonStop
> Clusters for UNIXware. A "single system image" cluster product for x86,
> initially using ServerNet as the cluster interconnect. Compaq released it as
> open source, it became OpenSSI, and the story appears to have ended shortly
> after that. The legal mess around SCO and Caldera and what not can't have
> helped much either.
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> I never saw it in action, but on paper it looked quite interesting, and anyone
> wanting to look with fresh eyes at high availability Linux/x86 might want to
> make sure they have a quick look at what it tried to do (technically and
> commercially), how it tried to do it, and why it seems to have vanished.
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> Anyway, there's no way you could opensource OpenVMS. You'd have to rename it to
> OpenOpenVMS and that would be silly. Oh hang on, it wouldn't be any sillier
> than most other major HP decisions in recent years (and it certainly wouldn't
> be any sillier than those "IT professionals" who appear to think that Windows
> is the answer, now and forever, whatever the requirement is).
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Open is the good term.

In a way or another, the "box" is opened (you know about Pandora ?).

As you heard, HP doesn't know exactly what to do, and we will hear after 
discover in Barcelona something like "hum ! we understand our VMS 
customers are in troubles, we are very happy to announce VMS would be 
supported until 2023 (S1) : you see we do a lot. And until that we will 
help you for a smooth transition".

So, a transition phase is opened, and HP will do some (a minima 
theatrical) consulting with his customers.

Perhaps the good strategy for us is to take this as an opportunity, and 
to transform meetings prepared by HP to evangelize about "everything is 
possible with windows" in a sort of moratorium.

A lot of things, here or between HP and its customers, have been said 
about VMS, mission critical, needs of customers, possible actions.

Perhaps it is time to capitalize that, synthesize, and going to HP 
meetings with propositions.

In a sense, letters like that for swedishs look like questions : "what 
can we do for you ?". The time to us, perhaps, to say : "oh, yes ? you 
want to do something ? What about this or this...?"