[Info-vax] Computerworld: OpenVM was too consistent

Bill Gunshannon bill at server3.cs.scranton.edu
Mon Dec 16 08:29:56 EST 2013


In article <2vd2oa-qi92.ln1 at news.chingola.ch>,
	Paul Sture <nospam at sture.ch> writes:
> Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer) wrote:
> 
>> Le 13/12/2013 20:58, JF Mezei a écrit :
>>> On 13-12-13 10:11, tadamsmar wrote:
>>>
>>>>> >>Now had CW kept VMS in the face of senior management ...
>>>> >
>>>> >Can you blame them?  Software that works is so boring.
>>> I'll be the devil's advocate here:
>> As usual ? :=)
>>
>> We are boring, we have to know it, but we have to understand why :
>>
>> two reasons : we didn't have fun projects,
>> 1) we didn't modernize, for two reasons:
>> 1.1) our supplier didn't care about VMS, and didn't invest anything for 
>> more than 10 years
>> 1.2) we didn't, as a community, adopt any new things from the new brave 
>> IT, for two reasons :
>> 1.2.1) we had very good critics about new things (itanic, java, open 
>> source...),
>> 1.2.2) we used these critics to do nothing new.
>> 2) the general context of mission critical has evolved for two reasons :
> 
>> 2.1) "software that works" is worth it only in central critic domains, 
>> unseened by DG,
> 
> Who is DG?
> 
> I know that when I mentioned Disaster Tolerance to a group of IT folks a
> decade or so ago the majority claimed that it was too expensive and
> everyone else settled for Disaster Recovery.
> 
> That "good enough" thing again.

Next chance you get aske them about COOP.  Most places don't know what it
is, muchless have a plan in place.


> 
>> 2.2) we don't need tera or mega flops to help video transports, or games 
>> support, so our market is not of interest.
>>
>> A little bit boring presentation :=(
>>
>> What was funny with VMS compared to Big Blue ?
>> VMS was about mini-computer. Concept : Agile Mission Critical.
>>
>> Future of VMS : Agile Mission Critical
>>
>> VMS against Big Blue : to prove mission critical could be agile
>> VMS against modern clue : to prove agility needs mission critical centers.
> 

I know this was in your .sig, but I can't resist....

> if you say: X is totally The Unix Way.', then remember this.
> UNIX says 'Do one thing and do it well'
> 
> What one thing is X doing and what is it doing well?

What it is doing is remote graphical display.

Doing well?  Name an implementation that does it better?

bill

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