[Info-vax] VMS porting (again), was: Re: CPython has removed OpenVMS support

["Gérard Calliet (pia-sofer)"]

Le 22/12/2013 15:47, johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk a écrit :
> Seasons greetings all.
The same
>
> With the greatest respect to Simon and Gerard:
and John, and all
>
> Can I return to my example of a volume car company trying to build and sell
> minibuses?
it is not just a poem, it becomes a lyrical symphonia :=)
>
> People don't have to know about the engineering details of minibuses or of cars
> to realise that using the same approach (to marketing, engineering, sales,
> support) for minibuses as for cars is likely a recipe for disaster. They just
> need a bit of "common sense" (which is something frequently missing from
> corporate HQs, as recent HP history serves to show only too clearly).
COMMON SENSE : there are the important words. I'm just a common guy, 
with common sense.

"I gonna be a VMS guru" was my younger hope, but it was just impossible, 
I had neither money, time, opportunities. So. I have just common sense.

It is a major difference between VP HP and us : they don't just have 
common sense.

I apologize for the proudness : I have got also some idea of science.

All results in :
- IT langages story,
- IT formalisation story,
- renewal of mathematics foundation (from this renewal IT exists),
- idiom considerations in linguistics,
- risk sciences ("cyndinique" in french),..

(all these results :
- inter-langage (formal and natural) fondamental difficulties,
- intra-langage limits of consistency,
- power of expression of any formalism,
- linguistic differences between meaning and enunciation,
- central issue of human translation for control-risks procedures...)

all these results PROVE that TRANSLATION is one of the biggest 
difficulties in science.

So for the man of the common sense, what is proposed by HP is just non 
sense : "this guy say he can climb the Himalaya with his old 
"peugeot"... and without fuel, he is just dumb". In common sense there 
is some common science.

The first thing on that I have an answer is that : I don't know all the 
detail to going on and do our job, but I can use my little brain to 
evaluate a bug. VMS euthanasia is a bug. It is not common sense.

You hear the difference between euthanasia and death ? I don't know 
about VMS very long time future, I don't read futures in animal wombs. 
But I know that this euthanasia just cannot be worth it for anyone 
(neither us nor HP). Some guys here say to me I am not serious. On the 
contrary it is HP, here, which is not serious.

And, yes, yes, funny time.

Gérard Calliet