[Info-vax] Bradley Manning and OpenVMS

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <52ba5936$0$1415$c3e8da3$b1356c67 at news.astraweb.com>,
	JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot at vaxination.ca> writes:
> On 13-12-24 20:30, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
> 
>> 3.  What makes you think that HP wasn't one of the companies that
>> happily put backdoors in thier products (including VMS)?
> 
> 
> Because what is left of VMS engineering probably doesn't know how to put
> a backdoor in, and didn't have the time to learn and implement it before
> they compiled and packaged the 8.4 work done by the real engineers
> before they were unceremoniously sacked.
> 
>:-)

Oh boy.  I get to give you another list...

1.  According to the documents leaked by Snowden getting companies to agree
to backdoors started in 2001.  Where was VMS Engineering then?  And, before
you try to throw out that "They" would never have allowed it, remember two
things.  "Thye would do as they were told (to include keeping quiet about
it) or they would have been fired.  And if you read Ken Thompson's paper
"Reflections on Trusting Trust" you will see how easy it actually is to
do it and keep it feom being obvious even to otehr people working on the
OS.

2.  NSA has the expertise and would gladly have provided that expertise if
it were not available at HP.  They had no problem inserting moles into the
encryption standards process to get a backdoor built right into the algorithm.

bill
 

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