[Info-vax] Real Usenet clients, was: Re: backups and compaction or nocompaction might be better

[AEF]

On Feb 2, 8:54 am, Stephen Hoffman <seaoh... at hoffmanlabs.invalid>
wrote:
> On 2013-02-02 05:39:09 +0000, AEF said:
>
> > On Jan 31, 5:53 pm, David Froble <da... at tsoft-inc.com> wrote:
>
> >> Even a VT terminal will wrap long lines, unless you tell it not to do so.
>
> > I wish it could be set to do so when booting!
>
> That's usually implemented via the TTY default characteristics system
> parameter bitmasks (TTY_DEFCHAR, TTY_DEFCHAR2, TTY_DEFCHAR3), or
> through the expedient of SET TERMINAL /PERMANENT in the startup, or a
> SET TERMINAL in the SYLOGIN or LOGIN procedures.
>
> If the VT is losing its local settings, there's a problem with the VT.

I don't recall exactly how it happens. I think something really early
in the boot sequence would reset it. And No Auto Warp is the default.
It's been at least 3 or 4 years since I wrestled with this.

>
> But seriously, who uses a VT these days?

Me. I have one in our "data center" (it's really just a medium large
computer room, but my boss et al. like to call it a "data center") and
a cart to put it on. I wheel the cart to the MicroVAX, plug things in
(being careful not to turn the VT on or off while it's plugged into
the console port!), do my shtick, and be done with it. I did this just
recently to recover after the hurricane, and only on one MicroVAX. The
last time I did this type of stuff was probably 3 or 4 years ago.

OK, I did my homework. See

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.dec/browse_frm/thread/598e6984458adf9d/36b7b0e13b31ee3b?lnk=gst&q=aef+autowrap#36b7b0e13b31ee3b

for a better description of this problem.

Here's the tinyurl version: http://tinyurl.com/aaz4yvy

>
> >> Or, if you insist, it will wrap long lines if you tell it to do so.
>
> > EDT is excellent for doing that!
>
> Use whatever works for you; whether that's EDT, EVE, LSEDIT, nano, vim,
> emacs, TextEdit, TextWrangler, Word, Notepad, or whatever.  But most
> any text editor, web browser or news client that's really worth using
> has line-wrapping and text flowing capabilities.  That's been part of
> the general job description for a very long time.

As you know, I love EDT. EVE is good when EDT won't do. Used LSEDIT
once - it was sort of cool; EVE-like, I think; but I don't remember
what for. Nano? vim is cool to add easy copy and paste to vi. emacs is
okay, but ^P for up and ^N for down? I don't use TextEdit for text. I
like TextWrangler on the Mac. Word or Wordpad or Excel at work for my
notes on how to do things at work. Notepad when I must be absolutely
sure I'm working with plain text, or in cases where nothing else wraps
text right. Some webpages have unwrappable lines. Arghhh. :-[]

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