[Info-vax] Oracle loses appeal in HP/Oracle Lawsuit
Jan-Erik Soderholm
jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Thu Feb 14 18:01:00 EST 2013
David Froble wrote 2013-02-14 23:18:
> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>
>> This attitude still assumes Oracle was making money on products to
>> support the Itanium. Some of us still don;t believe that.
>
> A real interesting statement.
>
> First, I'll assume that Oracle is written in C, and I'll also assume that
> the application logic and code is the same on all platforms. I feel that
> these are potentially safe assumptions, especially the latter assumption.
> It is quite likely that any architechure specific capabilities were long
> ago dropped and replaced by generic code.
>
> Now, if the above is anywhere close to reality, then most or all of the
> work to run Oracle on the itanic would be a compile and link. Even an
> testing should be minimal since for the most part support routines would
> not change and would have been tested long ago. What's so costly with this?
>
> Consider RDB. Oracle continues to develop and sell this database product.
> If there would be any product easy to kill off, it would be something that
> runs on VMS, as HP for sure, and DEC I think, and maybe even Compaq have
> made noises about VMS users being expected to migrate to Unix. It's also
> quite likely that there are some languages other than C used in RDB,...
There is Bliss in Rdb. Lack of official support for Bliss on Windows NT
made Oracle to withdraw the Rdb7/Windows product lately in the process.
Note also that Rdb creates executable machine code for the target
architecture on the fly when running "Dynamic SQL" statements.
> and
> Oracle would have to retain some expertise there that isn't required on any
> other platform.
>
> So my question is, if Oracle sees value (profits) in continuing to sell
> RDB, with it's unique (VMS only) requirements in doing so, then just what
> the hell would be so expensive in continuing to sell Oracle Classic on
> HP-UX, and VMS?
Note that Rdb was never realy part of the move from Oracle to stop
development on Itanium. At least not if you listen to the (Rdb) folks
from Oracle themselfs.
Jan-Erik.
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