[Info-vax] Oracle loses appeal in HP/Oracle Lawsuit

[David Froble]

Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> David Froble wrote 2013-02-14 23:18:
>> Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>
>>> This attitude still assumes Oracle was making money on products to
>>> support the Itanium.  Some of us still don;t believe that.
>>
>> A real interesting statement.
>>
>> First, I'll assume that Oracle is written in C, and I'll also assume that
>> the application logic and code is the same on all platforms.  I feel that
>> these are potentially safe assumptions, especially the latter assumption.
>> It is quite likely that any architechure specific capabilities were long
>> ago dropped and replaced by generic code.
>>
>> Now, if the above is anywhere close to reality, then most or all of the
>> work to run Oracle on the itanic would be a compile and link.  Even an
>> testing should be minimal since for the most part support routines would
>> not change and would have been tested long ago.  What's so costly with 
>> this?
>>
>> Consider RDB.  Oracle continues to develop and sell this database 
>> product.
>> If there would be any product easy to kill off, it would be something 
>> that
>> runs on VMS, as HP for sure, and DEC I think, and maybe even Compaq have
>> made noises about VMS users being expected to migrate to Unix.  It's also
>> quite likely that there are some languages other than C used in RDB,...
> 
> There is Bliss in Rdb. Lack of official support for Bliss on Windows NT
> made Oracle to withdraw the Rdb7/Windows product lately in the process.

Yeah, and wasn't that a disgusting move ??

> Note also that Rdb creates executable machine code for the target
> architecture on the fly when running "Dynamic SQL" statements.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> and
>> Oracle would have to retain some expertise there that isn't required 
>> on any
>> other platform.
>>
>> So my question is, if Oracle sees value (profits) in continuing to sell
>> RDB, with it's unique (VMS only) requirements in doing so, then just what
>> the hell would be so expensive in continuing to sell Oracle Classic on
>> HP-UX, and VMS?
> 
> Note that Rdb was never realy part of the move from Oracle to stop
> development on Itanium. At least not if you listen to the (Rdb) folks
> from Oracle themselfs.
> 
> Jan-Erik.
> 

All this is interesting, and I'm happy I presented the opportunity for a 
discussion on Bliss and RDB, but my question was directed at

"This attitude still assumes Oracle was making money on products to
support the Itanium.  Some of us still don;t believe that."

So far I haven't seen any of those "some of us" come forward to defend 
their "beliefs" when presented with a decent argument against their 
"beliefs".  Starting to smell like "Troll".