[Info-vax] pop mail change

Jan-Erik Soderholm jan-erik.soderholm at telia.com
Tue Feb 26 12:23:58 EST 2013


Tom Linden wrote 2013-02-26 18:10:
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 06:57:36 -0800, Stephen Hoffman
> <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On 2013-02-26 14:17:27 +0000, Tom Linden said:
>>
>>> I use Outlook as my pop client to TCPIP and mx as smtp
>>> Comcast is my connection and they are now blocking port 25 for
>>> outgoing.  They have switched to 995 and 465 for in and out, resp.
>>>  What steps do I need to take with tcpip to switch 110, 25 to these ports.
>>> Do I need to make any changes to mx?
>>
>> Blocking TCP port 25 outbound from netblocks containing dynamic addresses
>> and from netblocks that aren't hosting mail servers is common practice,
>> and quite often good practice.
>>
>> Blocking TCP port 25 from a static IP assignment is less common,
>> however.  A static IP assignment is typical with mail servers, so you'll
>> want to check with your ISP about the blocks.
>>
>> As for options if the ISP isn't willing to drop the blocks and wants you
>> to relay, you could roll in an operating system and a server that runs
>> Postfix or analogous mail server (or try the Lamson project SMTP server
>> that's based on Python, and see if that works on OpenVMS), or migrate to
>> the Process Multinet IP stack.  Not good choices.
>>
>> For remote mail clients connecting to your mail server, it's common to
>> see these same port blocks effect mail submissions via TCP port 25.  This
>> means switching the client from TCP port 25 to (usually) TCP port 587 and
>> setting up authentication, and TCP/IP Services doesn't support the
>> alternate submission port, so you'll either need to change to a different
>> mail server (whether on or off of VMS), or to use a VPN to reach the mail
>> server.
>>
>> TCP port 465 is not as commonly used as is TCP 587 ESMTP port.  TCP 995
>> is POP via SSL.
>>
>> For sending outbound mail from an SMTP server on a network with an
>> outbound TCP port 25 block, you'll either need to get the block removed,
>> or establish a relay, and TCP/IP Services doesn't offer a submission-port
>> relay feature.  Postfix does offer the ability to perform an
>> authenticated relay, but I don't know off-hand if the Process Multinet
>> stack does.  (I know Process has a transport shim for sending
>> authenticated mail from the Mail client, but I don't know if the Process
>> Multinet SMTP server can relay.)
>>
>> Probably the easiest: Roll in a Linux box, or a Mac Mini Server running
>> OS X Server...
>>
>> This all presumes the ISP ToS permits this stuff.  Not all do.
>>
> I guess I didn't adequately explain my situation.  I run my own mail servers
> on VMS with TCPIP and mx.  I use Outlook as my pop client on XP at home and
> connect
> through comcast to the internet.  These are dynamic IPs of course.  Comcast
> is blocking
> port 25 so I don't get to my servers.  So what I would like is to change
> from port 25 to
> 587 (as you corrected me) and my question related to what I needed to do
> with TCPIP in order
> to permit me to send outgoing pop mail through the server.  How do I
> configure it to accept this?
>
>

Now, 465 is "Secure SMTP (SSMTP)" and 995 is "Secure POP3 (SSL-POP)".

I do not thing neither MX or TCPIP (-Services) support that.
It's not just a change of ports, but also the used protocols.







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