[Info-vax] unalphabetical help

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <kc7tle$7p5$1 at iltempo.update.uu.se>,
	Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
> On 2013-01-04 16:02, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <kc6osv$sgm$1 at iltempo.update.uu.se>,
>> 	Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
>>> On 2013-01-04 15:23, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>>> Johnny Billquist wrote 2013-01-04 14:47:
>>>>> On 2013-01-04 13:37, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>>>>> In article <nospam-1FE165.12192104012013 at news.chingola.ch>, Paul Sture
>>>>>> <nospam at sture.ch> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You are not kidding.  My first experience with it was with UCX 3.n, and
>>>>>>> the help would scroll off the top of a VT screen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But *that* must be a problem of the way past, right?
>>>>>> Does anyone use a terminal tool/emulator without
>>>>>> easy scrollback of a large screen buffer today ?
>>>>>
>>>>> How about anyone who uses a real terminal instead of a buggy emulator?
>>>>> :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>       Johnny
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I only use non-buggy emulators. Or at least emulators where
>>>> any bugs are non-visible. And yes, I did see you smiley... :-)
>>>
>>> Tell me which ones you are using, and I'll happily point out some bugs
>>> to you... :-)
>>>
>>> 	Johnny
>>
>> MS-kermit.     :-)
> 
> Yikes. I haven't used that one in a very long time. I don't even know 
> where to get a copy.

Still available from Columbia U.

> However, I admit that back when I still did (I've always tried to avoid 
> Windows, but sometimes one have to),

MSKermit is not a windows program, it's a DOS program.  I run it on 
extremely old Compaq and Zenith laptops to use strictly as terminals.
It has the advantage of being able to do scripting and prompted text
sending.  That's great for loading in that oddball bootstrap using ODT.

>                                      MS-Kermit was among the better 
> emulations around. I don't have any bugs offhand in my brain. I'll run 
> it through some tests next week and report back what bugs I find. :-)

The only problem I ever ran into was a graphics problem and wasn't really
MSKermits fault.  The University had a bunch of PC's they bought on the
cheap from a local company that used a bargain basement video card.  Seems
this card was based on an earlier card and when they changed the capabilities
they did not change the identity string in the PROM so everytime it tried
to go into wide mode it blew the video away completely.  Fixing it was
one of the first things I did when they University hired me.  Politics
kept my fixed version of MSKermit fromever being deployed.  :-)

bill

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