[Info-vax] unalphabetical help

[David Froble]

Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2013-01-05 02:43, David Froble wrote:
>> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>> On 2013-01-04 23:07, David Froble wrote:
>>>> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>>>> On 2013-01-04 15:23, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>>>>> Johnny Billquist wrote 2013-01-04 14:47:
>>>>>>> On 2013-01-04 13:37, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>>>>>>> In article <nospam-1FE165.12192104012013 at news.chingola.ch>, Paul
>>>>>>>> Sture
>>>>>>>> <nospam at sture.ch> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You are not kidding.  My first experience with it was with UCX
>>>>>>>>> 3.n, and
>>>>>>>>> the help would scroll off the top of a VT screen.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But *that* must be a problem of the way past, right?
>>>>>>>> Does anyone use a terminal tool/emulator without
>>>>>>>> easy scrollback of a large screen buffer today ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How about anyone who uses a real terminal instead of a buggy
>>>>>>> emulator?
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      Johnny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I only use non-buggy emulators. Or at least emulators where
>>>>>> any bugs are non-visible. And yes, I did see you smiley... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell me which ones you are using, and I'll happily point out some bugs
>>>>> to you... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>     Johnny
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I'm lazy, I'll let you do the work.
>>>>
>>>> I'm using SmarTerm from I believe Persoft, which may no longer be
>>>> around ..
>>>
>>> Can I get a copy? :-)
>>> I think I've used it some time in the past, and it was pretty ugly...
>>> (I could be remembering wrong.)
>>>
>>>     Johnny
>>>
>>
>> It is/was a commercial product, with a license key.  I don't think it
>> appropriate for me to be distributing it.
> 
> Doh! I'll have to forfeit reporting any bugs on that one then... :-(
> 
> If you want to, I can direct you through a number of interesting tests 
> offline, and you can report the bugs yourself. :-)
> 
>     Johnny
> 

I've had only one problem with SmarTerm.  It supports an FTP session, 
with command line or windows and drag and drop.  I've had a problem in 
one direction with VMS on Alpha, never on VAX.  However, I've also had a 
problem between 2 Alphas, which gets fixed by "SET PASSIVE" once an FTP 
connection is established, so, I don't think it's a SmarTerm issue. 
I've never bothered to study the "passive" thing with FTP, so I don't 
know what the problem is, nor why setting "passive" fixes it.  I'm 
guessing it's something to do with whichever side thinks it's in 
control.  Perhaps improper handshake when the FTP connection is established.