[Info-vax] [OT] Moore's Law dead within a decade

[Bart Zorn]

On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:33:39 AM UTC+2, Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote 2013-10-01 23:27:
> 
> > On 9/28/2013 7:30 PM, AEF wrote:
> 
> >> On Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:25:48 PM UTC-4, Scott Dorsey wrote:
> 
> >>> AEF  <spamsink2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>>>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>>> I don't know just what you're getting at here, or how serious you are.
> 
> >>>> Rega=
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>>> rdless: The speed of sound is relative to the medium through which it
> 
> >>>> propa=
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>>> gates.
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>> So is the speed of light.  Light can't travel any faster than C, but you
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>> can put it through a medium that will cause it to travel slower than C,
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>> which is how lenses work.
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>> --scott
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>> --
> 
> >>>
> 
> >>> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
> 
> >>
> 
> >> But that's not really analogous. Sound _is_ the vibration of the
> 
> >> molecules that make up the medium. That's not the case for light. But you
> 
> >> are correct about how lenses work.
> 
> >>
> 
> >> AEF
> 
> >>
> 
> >
> 
> > This discussion, and many others with many of the same
> 
> > characteristics, is saying quite clearly that VMS is dead.
> 
> >
> 
> > Are there any messages here from people needing help with
> 
> > the O/S?  How about people people using applications in VMS.
> 
> >
> 
> > Those who have VMS jobs are hanging on with both hands!
> 
> >
> 
> > I miss it!
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> Good point. :-)
> 
> Then we have all that PDP-11 stuff...
> 
> I am busy preparing for the handover of my job to HCL.
> 
> Anyone here that have experiences from HCL Technologies?
> 
> In particular in regard to OpenVMS...
> 
> 
> 
> Jan-Erik.

I can't speak about HCL, but I had a similar experience handing over to Infosys, six years ago. It appeared that they did not have a single person in their enormous work force who had any knowledge of OpenVMS, so they had to hire someone. Of course, during the contract negotiation, they assured us that they could do it. In fact, for them it was only a very little piece in a large Unix/Windows contract. Since nobody participating in the negotiations knew anything about OpenVMS, it was easy to reach an agreement.

The actual handover was "easy": the person they hired did not know what SYS$LOGIN is! On the bright side: he had no noticeable knowledge of Unix or Windows either!

Bart