[Info-vax] [OT] Moore's Law dead within a decade

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

Bart Zorn wrote 2013-10-02 08:26:
> On Wednesday, October 2, 2013 12:33:39 AM UTC+2, Jan-Erik Soderholm
> wrote:
>> Richard B. Gilbert wrote 2013-10-01 23:27:
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>>> On 9/28/2013 7:30 PM, AEF wrote:
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>>>> On Saturday, September 28, 2013 7:25:48 PM UTC-4, Scott Dorsey
>>>> wrote:
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>>>>> AEF  <spamsink2001 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> I don't know just what you're getting at here, or how serious
>>>>>> you are.
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>>>>>> Rega=
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>>>>>> rdless: The speed of sound is relative to the medium through
>>>>>> which it
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>>>>>> propa=
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>>>>>> gates.
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>>>>> So is the speed of light.  Light can't travel any faster than C,
>>>>> but you
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>>>>> can put it through a medium that will cause it to travel slower
>>>>> than C,
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>>>>> which is how lenses work.
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>>>>> --scott
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>>>>>
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>>>>> --
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>>>>>
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>>>>> "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
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>>>> But that's not really analogous. Sound _is_ the vibration of the
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>>>> molecules that make up the medium. That's not the case for light.
>>>> But you
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>>>> are correct about how lenses work.
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>>>>
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>>>> AEF
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>>>
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>>> This discussion, and many others with many of the same
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>>> characteristics, is saying quite clearly that VMS is dead.
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>>>
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>>> Are there any messages here from people needing help with
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>>> the O/S?  How about people people using applications in VMS.
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>>>
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>>> Those who have VMS jobs are hanging on with both hands!
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>>> I miss it!
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>> Good point. :-)
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>> Then we have all that PDP-11 stuff...
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>> I am busy preparing for the handover of my job to HCL.
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>> Anyone here that have experiences from HCL Technologies?
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>> In particular in regard to OpenVMS...
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>> Jan-Erik.
>
> I can't speak about HCL, but I had a similar experience handing over to
> Infosys, six years ago. It appeared that they did not have a single
> person in their enormous work force who had any knowledge of OpenVMS, so
> they had to hire someone.

Right. I'm a sub-contractor today (self-empl running my own business) so
I know about at least one potential guy if they don't fix it themself. :-)

Jan-Erik.



> Of course, during the contract negotiation,
> they assured us that they could do it. In fact, for them it was only a
> very little piece in a large Unix/Windows contract. Since nobody
> participating in the negotiations knew anything about OpenVMS, it was
> easy to reach an agreement.
>
> The actual handover was "easy": the person they hired did not know what
> SYS$LOGIN is! On the bright side: he had no noticeable knowledge of Unix
> or Windows either!
>
> Bart
>