[Info-vax] Reimplementing VMS, was: Re: HP adds OpenVMS Mature Product Support beyond the end of Standard Support

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <lchi3d$khm$2 at dont-email.me>,
	Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
> On 2014-01-31, Bill Gunshannon <bill at server2.cs.scranton.edu> wrote:
>> In article <lcgvur$hbv$3 at dont-email.me>,
>> 	Simon Clubley <clubley at remove_me.eisner.decus.org-Earth.UFP> writes:
>>> On 2014-01-31, Bill Gunshannon <bill at server2.cs.scranton.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> BUt I thought people here in VMSland find anythingother than the VMS
>>>> Kernel to be inferior and totally unacceptable.  If a VMS-like API
>>>> layerd on top of a Unixy kernel is "good enough" then what is stopping
>>>> people from moving ahead with it?  heck, why wasn't it done years ago
>>>> when people first stopped trusting HP?
>>>>  
>>> 
>>> Why do you keep calling it a "Unixy" kernel ? It's a microkernel with
>>> whatever personality you want to implement on top of it.
>>
>> Because people keep pointing out all the Unix implementations that used
>> it and that it has concepts derived from Unix.  There really is only one
>> thing about it that matters to this discussion.  It is not VMS.  Not
>> by any stretch of the immagination.  Not in any way shape or form.
>>
> 
> Of course it's not VMS in the same way that a hardware CPU isn't VMS.
> It's the base on which a VMS personality is implemented.
> 
> I wonder if you have any microkernel knowledge, because you seem to be
> getting your abstraction layers all mixed up.

More than enough, but that is still irrelevant to the original issue.
VMS is not a microkernel and a microkernel is not VMS.  People here
have historically stated that nothing is as good as VMS and nothing
is an acceptable replacement.  Now, all of a sudden, a microkernel
is a suitable replacement for the VMS kernel.  What happened to all
the security, stability and functionality issues?  If a microkernel
is an acceptable alternative to the VMS kernel why has noone written
a VMS API for a mmicrokernel in the past?  Then this whole issue of
the demise of VMS would have been moot from the start.

bill

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