[Info-vax] HP adds OpenVMS Mature Product Support beyond the end of Standard Support

[Bill Gunshannon]

In article <lchn9k$ght$1 at iltempo.update.uu.se>,
	Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
> On 2014-01-31 13:26, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>> In article <lcgna2$pgm$2 at iltempo.update.uu.se>,
>> 	Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes:
>>> On 2014-01-31 06:56, Robert Koehler wrote:
>>>> bill at server3.cs.scranton.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> All what work?  He used GCC but there were other C Compilers avaialble
>>>>> at the time.  Much of what GNU had actually done at that point was
>>>>> little more than rewriting utilities that already existed.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It might be that some of Gnu would be useful for a clone VMS, but
>>>>>> maybe not much.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't think of anything.  None of it is VMSish.  It's all Unixy.
>>>>> And I would think that would be enough to drive away any try VMS
>>>>> enthusiast.
>>>>
>>>>     Linus only wrote a kernel.  He says so, I've heard him myself.  GNU
>>>>     didn't just supply a compiler, they supplied all the compliers and
>>>>     all the other utilitities that made it possible to get work done on
>>>>     top of that kernel.
>>>>
>>>>     You couldn't even "ls" on Linux without GNU's ls.  And I've seen often
>>>>     enough that the result is a "GNU operating system with the Linux
>>>>     kernel".
>>>
>>> Except that you can also run Linux with the BSD userland... ;-)
>>>
>>
>> Heck, today tou even run Linux with a FreeBSD kernel.  Not really sure
>> what part that leaves that is Linux, but what do I know.
>>
>> http://www.debian.org/ports/kfreebsd-gnu/
> 
> Interesting claim, and interesting link. But while the link definitely 
> is about running GNU stuff on a FreeBSD kernel, I can't even see the 
> word "Linux" mentioned in there, so where did you get the Linux from here?

And when you see the name "Debian", what do you think of? (Assuming
you haven't already been to that page and read it thoroughly.)

> 
> There are two mentions of "Linux" on the page. One says that this is 
> "non-Linux" and the other is just a reference that there is something 
> they call GNU/Linux as well, which is not what that page is about.

Like I said in my last post, someone else said that the name "Linux" 
evokes expectations.  I am merely carrying this thru to a logical
conclussion that if someone sees the name "Debian" they will assume
"Linux".  I asked all the professors who use Linux in their courses
and a number of the students and none of them were aware of a "Debian"
distro that was not Linux.

As an interesting note, there is a thitd distribution that use a Mach
microkernel.  I may have to actually take a look at that one!!

bill

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