[Info-vax] Reimplementing VMS, was: Re: HP adds OpenVMS Mature Product Support beyond the end of Standard Support
JohnF
john at please.see.sig.for.email.com
Wed Feb 5 12:25:21 EST 2014
Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote:
> JohnF said:
>> Stephen Hoffman <seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> wrote:
>>> Why?
>>
>> Why what???
>> You yourself say below, "Demand for that [openvms] is low..."
>> So why would you ask "why" about what we both said?
>
> That was what is known as a rhetorical question.
Ahh. Is that what it was?
> There is no way you'll find a suite of porting tools or an emulation
> environment for free, as the folks working on these ports are all
> commercial entities,
Well, yeah, but that statement is kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
But I agree that's not likely to ever change. No non-commercial
entities are likely to become interested, especially at this late date.
> and coverage of even a fraction of the OpenVMS
> APIs is a huge project. You might only use 5% or less of the APIs, but
> many of the applications and installations tend to use a different 5%
> of the APIs.
>
> You might get some distance with FreeVMS, but I'd expect most folks
> won't see that as a viable long-term solution for their operations ?
> the folks I've dealt with here either wanted to be platform-native to
> the target platform, or they're headed more platform-generic, or they
> need some commercial tool or product ? like a database ? that just
> isn't available under FreeVMS.
>
> If you're just looking to swap out the hardware, then yes, there are
> free emulators, and there are commercial emulators.
Yeah, given the realities of the landscape, simh, or similar,
may well be the best option. Of course, that's still entirely
vms-dependent.
> Given you have some names of products, go have a chat with those folks
> and see if they'll work for your needs.
Terrific... and please visit my kickstarter page
and make a contribution towards that.
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