[Info-vax] C... the only winning move is not to play...

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In article <ldighs$gpg$1 at reader1.panix.com>, JohnF <john at please.see.sig.for.email.com> writes:
>VAXman- wrote:
>> JohnF <john at please.see.sig.for.email.com> writes:
>>> VAXman- wrote:
>>>> JohnF <john at please.see.sig.for.email.com> writes:
>>>>> VAXman- wrote:
>>>>>> I've been at SUPERVISOR mode in a lot of my time working on
>>>>>> a DCL debugger I've mentioned here a few times.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you don't mind me beating a dead horse (I seem to have
>>>>>run out of little puppies to kick), I think dcl is what
>>>>>all those str$functions we discussed were really written
>>>>>for. That is, but for digital's desire to provide string
>>>>>manipulation in dcl, they never would have bothered with
>>>>>that str$library. The C headers and stuff were more of an
>>>>>afterthought, i.e., as long as the library's there, might
>>>> 
>>>> Not even close.  There's no STR$anything in DCL.  STR$ANALYZE_SDESC and 
>>>> STR$COPY_DX exist in the CLI interface (CLI$ routines) but there NO STR$
>>>> WHATSOEVER in DCL itself.
>>>
>>>Yeah, yeah, so they're f$lexical_functions in dcl.
>>>I was guessing f$,str$'s are basically just different
>>>names for the same entry points in the rtl library.
>>>So I could be wrong about all that, but why would, say,
>>>str$element not be f$element?
>> 
>> Because it's not.
>Okay, thanks for the correction (if not clarification).
>
>> While similar in function, it's not implemented by passing 
>> F$element arguments to STR$ELEMENT.  If that's what you believe,
>> then believe that decc$strcat invokes STR$CONCAT. ;)
>
>I'm trying to str$ing together some witty remark about
>believing a fundamentalist interpretation of the bible
>versus a fundamentalist interpretation of vms internals,
>but it's not coming to me.

Dump the "bible" and read the "Book of Ruth" aka, OpenVMS Internals and Data
Structures.
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