[Info-vax] rx2800i2 sales/support window changes

[johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk]

On Thursday, 13 February 2014 22:26:00 UTC, JF Mezei  wrote:
> On 14-02-13 05:47, johnson.eric at gmail.com wrote:
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> > Intel has already declared May 23rd to be the last order date for tukwila. The details are here.
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> I don't think this is a big issue. I suspect HP has already paid for a
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> metric tonne of thsoe chips thorugh its contracts to keep IA64 on life
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> support.
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> The real issue are all the other components , such as enclosures,
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> motherboards, power supplies etc etc.  How many motherboards are build
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> is likely the real show stopper here in terms of new system
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> avaialbility. This would likely be a number that is well below number of
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> Tukwila CPUs made in the last production run.
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> > What really is the meaning of the word new? 
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> I dont think HP would be dishonest here. Refurbished products are really
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> sold as refurbished products.  I suspecrt manyt countries have rules
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> against marketing a refurbished product as "new" so HP wouldn't risk it.
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> > How about - if HP sells you an i2 where everything is brand new BUT the CPUs?
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> CPUs are not likely to be in short supply. Other components such as
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> motherboard would be.

"Other components such as motherboard would be [in short supply]"

Isn't the box in question a quite small rack mount server?

So where's the problem with the motherboards? The design and other non-recurring engineering has all been done, so no one off costs to
worry about.

Manufacturing server motherboards isn't anything like manufacturing
chips, especially when the motherboard in question is not vastly
different in principle from many other similar motherboards on the
server market. Unpopulated server motherboards don't even take up
much room or tie up huge amounts of money.

Same for the rest of the major components - other than Intel's Chips
Inside, why would any of the major components be significantly different
from industry standard server market components? Power, storage, DRAM,
cooling, management, NICs, etc. Which of them need be IA64-specific
(beyond the CPU and support chips)?

A last time buy of IA64 chips (CPU and support). That's the important bit.

And maybe someone to look after the software support.