[Info-vax] Configured shadowing, neglected to update satellite.. Can't figure out how to fix.

[David Hoelzer]

On Friday, February 21, 2014 9:30:31 AM UTC-5, Stephen Hoffman wrote:
> On 2014-02-21 04:22:18 +0000, cyberdefensedave at gmail.com said:
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> > This may surprise you, but I actually did read the manual.  The setting 
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> > in error was an oversight.  I suppose you've never misconfigured 
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> > something and, regardless of how long you stared at it, you couldn't 
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> > see your own mistake.
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> There are many opportunities to take offense where none is intended.   
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> Text is certainly subject to misunderstanding, particularly that that 
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> doesn't get professionally proofread, reviewed, tweaked, A-B tested and 
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> otherwise extruded into processed American Cheese-text food product, 
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> but I digress.  Choosing to infer offense might however dissuade others 
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> from providing further future help for fear of offending (further?), or 
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> just because the time and effort spent on the responses are not 
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> perceived as valuable, even if the response might not be immediately 
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> helpful to your quest.   This might result in some others might not 
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> then mention there's a fairly advanced course in shadowing 
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> configurations and troubleshooting in the aforementioned comp.os.vms 
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> newsgroup archives, for instance.  Of course these things don't 
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> generally end well for anyone involved in the discussion.   Yes, it is 
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> entirely your call on how you choose to perceive the intent of a reply 
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> or an answer, on who you think is trolling you and who is actually 
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> intending to troll you, and your choice to post or to plonk.
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> To answer your (presumably rhetorical) question, yes, that's happened.  
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> I've hit stuff I couldn't figure out.   Which generally led me to 
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> re-read the manual, the documentation, the source code or the likes of 
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> the newsgroup archives here or StackOverflow or such for more active OS 
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> environments, and to specifically verify my assumptions.  
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> Interestingly, I've found that creating a reproducer to post the 
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> question has often led me to the answer to the question-- gathering the 
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> details for the posting, including verifying the settings and related 
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> and -- where I run into more problems being in the source code -- 
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> creating a standalone reproducer have often led me to the answer.  This 
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> effort so that I don't waste the time of the folks I'm planning to ask 
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> the question of -- that's part of valuing the time that others might 
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> spend on the question on my behalf.  Where the question was weird 
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> enough to have had few available resources or common enough to have 
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> been seen posted by folks (those that don't realize their question 
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> might be a common one), I've edited out the expletives and the WTFs and 
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> the "which idiot thought this was a good idea?" and the rest, and 
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> posted a write up to the HL web site.
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> Again, your call.
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> I hereby apologize for pointing to the documentation and available 
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> resources, and for not knowing that you've already read the manual, and 
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> shall endeavor to never again point you at any of the documentation.   
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> OK, so now I'm intentionally trolling -- I'll reference the docs again.  
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> I'd post an emoji here, but the VMS folks would just see that UTF-8 as 
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> more line noise.  Whoops, trolling again.  :-)
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Sorry if I mistook your tone. :)