[Info-vax] Rethinking DECNET ?

Dirk Munk munk at home.nl
Mon Sep 1 19:41:25 EDT 2014


David Froble wrote:
> Hein RMS van den Heuvel wrote:
>> On Saturday, August 30, 2014 1:33:42 AM UTC-4, JF Mezei wrote:
>>> Make DECNET native on IP. Get an IP port defined for DECNET, and then
>>> change NCP to have IP addresses instead of node/area numbers. Traffic
>>
>> Hi JFM,
>>
>> Just curious,
>> How much money (order of magnitude, 100K$, 1M$, 10M$) have you, the
>> company you work for, or the companies you work with, spend on OpenVMS
>> or related hardware in the past 10 years? What is the expectation on
>> for the next 10 years.
>> Best regards,
>> Hein
>>
>
> Now, you may feel that this type of put down is relevant.  It is NOT!
>
> Not saying that JF always has good questions, but such a reply is not
> the way to respond.
>
> If you cannot be just a bit more pleasant, then just STFU!

Well, Hein does have a point. Decnet 4 has been replaced by Decnet 5 
decades ago. You can still use Decnet 4 if you like, but JF is now 
asking to overhaul Decnet 4 to use it over IP (IPv4 and IPv6?). Decnet 5 
can be used over IPv4 and IPv6, it was designed to do that. VMS does not 
generate a lot of income these days, VSI can use every penny to do the 
x86 port and to do a lot of overdue maintenance on various layered 
products.

Asking for the complete overhaul of an outdated product for which a 
better replacing product exists is not so clever, and certainly not when 
the finances are strained. That is what Hein wanted to stress IMHO.

I do understand JF, sure, but this can not be a serious suggestion at 
this time.



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