[Info-vax] Rethinking DECNET ?
Johnny Billquist
bqt at softjar.se
Tue Sep 2 22:15:35 EDT 2014
On 2014-09-02 20:26, Dirk Munk wrote:
> Johnny Billquist wrote:
>> On 2014-09-02 09:52, Dirk Munk wrote:
>>> JF Mezei wrote:
>>>> (so tunneling DECNET 5 over IP is not the same as having FAL be native
>>>> on IP).
>>>
>>> It is >>not<< tunneling. Decnet 5 uses TCP+IP as transport layer instead
>>> of OSI. Decnet 5 hosts have IPv4 and/or IPv6 addresses and BIND DNS
>>> names, not OSI addresses in this case. In fact Decnet 5 is doing exactly
>>> what you're asking from a redesigned Decnet 4 stack, however it is using
>>> only one TCP port, port number 102.
>>
>> You know, this actually *is* tunneling. :-)
>> You have one DECnet stream over TCP/IP. Inside that stream goes DECnet
>> traffic, which might actually be several different streams that are
>> multiplexed on this tunnel. And DECnet have no idea how the two
>> endpoints connect, and how many hops might be along the way in the IP
>> world. It's a tunnel.
>
> And that is exactly the same as with OSI. With IP you address port 102,
> and with OSI you address protocol selector 20 (hex) for DNA (Decnet
> Phase V) traffic, and protocol selector 21 for NSP (Decnet Phase IV)
> traffic.
And? It's still a tunnel.
Johnny
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