[Info-vax] Rethinking DECNET ?

[Jan-Erik Soderholm]

David Froble wrote 2014-09-05 05:16:
> Kerry Main wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Info-vax [mailto:info-vax-bounces at info-vax.com] On Behalf Of
>>> David Froble
>>> Sent: 04-Sep-14 8:50 AM
>>> To: info-vax at info-vax.com
>>> Subject: Re: [New Info-vax] Rethinking DECNET ?
>>>
>>> Jan-Erik Soderholm wrote:
>>>
>>>> My point and question was actualy, "do you realy need DECnet?" :-)
>>>>
>>>> I have no problem running VMS without DECnet and the
>>>> customer will never ask for it, that is for sure...
>>> As some have mentioned, "do you really need VMS?"
>>>
>>> DECnet IV is useful on a single VMS system, and if you have two or more
>>> VMS systems in-house it is very useful.
>>>
>>> But yeah, I've seen more than one stubborn person who won't install
>>> DECnet on their VMS system(s).
>>
>> Even if not used for production  purposes, having DECnet available is
>> also a useful tool for troubleshooting purposes when there are TCPIP
>> issues. In mission critical environments issues need to be resolved ASAP.
>> The more tools one has on their belt, the better the carpenter.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Kerry Main
>> Back to the Future IT Inc.
>>  .. Learning from the past to plan the future
>>
>> Kerry dot main at backtothefutureit dot com
>
> Say you normally Telnet (sorry Steve) into a VMS system.  But you need to
> modify TCP/IP, and will need to take it down and re-start.  From your
> Telnet session?  Good luck.

Of course. Then I telnet into the terminal server connected to
the console serial port. Solved. Or put TCPUP$SHUTDOWN/STARTUP
into a COM file and submit it...

>
> But if you can SET HOST to the system then you can do the TCP/IP mods.
>

That requires that you have something else to SET HOST from!
I can't from *my* laptop at least...

> And if you need to modify dECnet to the point of taking it down, there is a
> Telnet session ....

SET HOST/LAT... :-)

Jan-Erik.