[Info-vax] Learning VMS application programming

Phillip Helbig---undress to reply helbig at astro.multiCLOTHESvax.de
Sun Sep 7 11:17:33 EDT 2014


In article <luhrdv$pf4$1 at dont-email.me>, Stephen Hoffman
<seaohveh at hoffmanlabs.invalid> writes: 

> >>>>>> I never saw Fortran used for systems programming before.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Fortran is not used for system programming on VMS.   It's an 
> >>>>> application-programming language.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> C, Bliss and Macro32 assembler are most commonly used for system-level 
> >>>>> programming on VMS.
> >>> I'm using "system programming" to refer to "operating system 
> >>> programming", as differentiated from application systems.  That is, I'm 
> >>>  referring to the languages used for OpenVMS device drivers, 
> >>> kernel-mode code, and related programs.
> > 
> > While that might be the case,
>
> Might?  No.  I can say with certainty that I was referring to 
> inner-mode programming when I was using the phrase "system 
> programming".  No "might" needed there.

Sorry, I meant "might be the case" in reference to "I never saw Fortran 
used for systems programming before".  (Also, "might be the case" 
essentially means "while that is the case" in this context.)
 
> But then this smells rather like the classic "technically feasible" 
> versus "prudent investment of time and effort and budget" discussion 
> trap, too.   Sure, inner-mode Fortran is technically feasible.  But who 
> would use it, how much would they pay for this, and why don't we 
> implement kernel-mode COBOL while we're at it?   Does VSI have other 
> work that'll be higher on the schedule?

I just wanted to suggest that it was an implementation choice, and not 
due to some deficiency in Fortran itself (as far as I know).




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