[Info-vax] Learning VMS application programming

[David Froble]

Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2014-09-07 17:46, David Froble wrote:
>> Paul Sture wrote:
>>
>>> Since I just stated in another post that Fortan was the first HLL
>>> language
>>> available for VAX/VMS, was Bliss available to the public before it
>>> appeared on the Freeware CDs?
>>
>> Bliss was available on the PDP-11s.  But as with other compilers, you
>> had to purchase it.  Free came later.
> 
> Nope. Sadly you are incorrect. There never was a Bliss compiler on the 
> PDP-11. PDP-11 Bliss code was originally cross compiled using Bliss-11, 
> which ran on a PDP-10, and later cross compiled using Bliss-16 was ran 
> on VMS.

Interesting.  Guess I'm not too old to learn something new (to me).

I knew some PDP-11 code was developed in Bliss.  I never knew it wasn't 
compiled on the PDP-11s.  I just ass-u-me ed that Bliss-11 was a PDP-11 
language.

I'm wondering, if you used SimH to simulate a PDP-10, and could find the 
cross compiler, if it would help in your work?