[Info-vax] [OT] Assembly languages, was: Re: Bliss was Re: Learning VMS application programming

[Shark8]

On 9/9/2014 5:37 PM, Simon Clubley wrote:
> On 2014-09-10, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
>> On 2014-09-09 16:58, Bill Gunshannon wrote:
>>>
>>> If you think finding COBOL programmers is hard what do you think the
>>> availability of MACRO-11 programmers is like?  :-)
>>
>> Meh. I program MACRO-11 almost every day already... It's not hard. :-)
>>
>
> $ set response/mode=good_natured
>
> You people should get with the times and learn a modern assembly
> language/architecture. :-)
>
> Of the modern assembly languages I know or am at least familiar with:
>
> x86:		Yuck!
> 8-bit PICs:	Super yuck!
> HC08:		Way too basic; I left the architecture behind years ago
> AVR:		Not bad for an 8-bit MCU
> ARM:		Very nice; the sweet spot for a modern assembly language.
> MIPS:		Rather too basic for my tastes.
>
> The only use I have for assembly languages these days are the initial
> post-powerup bootstrap code and interrupt handler wrappers/dispatchers
> to C language interrupt handlers.
>
> Of the modern assembly languages, the ARM architecture is by far the
> best I've used. It's a really nice and elegant architecture.
>
> People say nice things about PowerPC, but it doesn't have a hobbyist
> ecosystem, so it's not a MCU I've ever looked at.
>
> The MSP430 is supposed to be rather nice, but the range doesn't have
> anything powerful enough in PDIP packaging for me to be interested
> in it.
>
> Simon.
>

Have you looked into the Mill CPU stuff? It's kinda interesting.
Here's a link to a bunch of vids: http://ootbcomp.com/docs/