[Info-vax] OpenVMS Modernization Development Tools on YouTube (eCube)

[johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk]

On Thursday, 18 September 2014 16:09:04 UTC+1, Stephen Hoffman  wrote:
> On 2014-09-18 14:37:58 +0000, Phillip Helbig---undress to reply said:
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> > OK, but the question is whether one should post encoded text to a 
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> > plain-text newsgroup.
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> Alternatively, the question becomes whether one can continue to use 
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> older tools in newer environments, or whether upgrades can and 
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> eventually do become necessary.
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> > Why not post binaries, or images, or whatever?
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> Good idea.   That'd be sensible and quite handy for some questions; 
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> where an image or a diagram would greatly clarify some detail or 
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> command sequence.
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> > With the proper MIME headers, one could in principle decode them.
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> With proper news readers, too.   The local news reader showed the text 
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> of Kerry's message and the URL just fine.  Might want to check for 
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> limits or bugs in the local reader.
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> > One MIGHT be able to make a case for encoding something which goes  
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> > beyond 7-bit printable ASCII, but why one would encode plain text is  
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> > beyond me.
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> SHOULD WE SWITCH TO UPPERCASE POSTINGS TO KEEP MESSAGES READABLE IN 
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> OLDER CHARACTER ENCODINGS QUESTION MARK
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> :-)
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> More seriously: the world isn't going back to the land of 7-bit ASCII text.
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> Pure Personal Opinion | HoffmanLabs LLC

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"More seriously: the world isn't going back to the land of 7-bit ASCII text."

All these band-aids apply largely BECAUSE the RFC world **hasn't moved
on from** the land of 7-bit ASCII text, and in particular hasn't moved
on from the teletype era when applications and protocols had to be
designed to cope with network links that weren't 8bit clean. The RFC 
world hasn't moved on from leaving dealing with those little details to
the upper layer applications, because it's "an application layer
problem". Yeah right.

Oh hang on, we had this discussion not far from here a few days ago.
And the OSI world had it thirty years ago. And still the RFC world
doesn't "get it". Ho hum.