[Info-vax] OpenVMS Modernization Development Tools on YouTube (eCube)
Johnny Billquist
bqt at softjar.se
Thu Sep 18 17:25:59 EDT 2014
On 2014-09-18 22:46, johnwallace4 at yahoo.co.uk wrote:
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> ..
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> "More seriously: the world isn't going back to the land of 7-bit ASCII text."
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> All these band-aids apply largely BECAUSE the RFC world **hasn't moved
> on from** the land of 7-bit ASCII text, and in particular hasn't moved
> on from the teletype era when applications and protocols had to be
> designed to cope with network links that weren't 8bit clean. The RFC
> world hasn't moved on from leaving dealing with those little details to
> the upper layer applications, because it's "an application layer
> problem". Yeah right.
What kind of nonsense is this? 8 bit clean have nothing to do with this,
and TCP/IP is always 8 bit clean. There are some protocols on top of
this which talks 7-bit ascii, and of course those protocols will
continue to talk 7-bit ascii. They would do so no matter what the
underlying protocol looks like.
> Oh hang on, we had this discussion not far from here a few days ago.
> And the OSI world had it thirty years ago. And still the RFC world
> doesn't "get it". Ho hum.
Yeah, right. So tell me, how does OSI deal with Unicode? And how does
your newsreader that talks OSI deal with transferring both text and a
binary file in the same message? Or actually, how does news work over
OSI in the first place?
Oh? You mean the OSI model have not even thought about the problem yet.
Come back in another 30 years, when I believe the OSI model will be even
more relevant than it is today.
Johnny
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